how many rounds were carried for the 25mm?
~200 rounds ready. Basically the same as a Bradley.
The ADATS missile is c50kg, the TOW c20kg. ADATs is also significantly longer. You could probably fit it if you didn't mind the amount of changes, but then you'd need compatible guidance (ADATS is a laser beam rider), and it would be no use for air defence without radar. So all you're getting is a more expensive ATGM with no better penetration than a BGM-71D, and a longer range that probably isn't usable. If you want a better ATGM on the Bradley, fit Hellfire.
Yes I have
Yeah with no air to air capacity or capability besides stationary patriot systems I do think it's a good idea to resurrect it obviously with modern equipment and electronics but we need a mobile air defense that can run around with armored units like it's plan was in desert storm
That's basically what MSHORAD is. A mix of weapons that are all capable of air defense within 5-10km or so.
Yep, I'm gonna get around to buying it in the next year lol
Leopard 2 hull with ADATS. The caption you've cut off says as much. Discussed briefly here.
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Hellfire went all the way back to the Cheyenne era (ATGAR) and was conceived in the second half of the 70s. ADATS was a whole decade newer, and that means better energetics and more efficient internal packaging. ADATS OML was also far more suitable for its role (sharp nose, streamlined tube). Hellfire barely has any wing lift.
ADATS also has an 8 inch diameter and uses more energetic low smoke/smokeless propellant.
They actually could support a 7 round hydra pod in the space of each missile canister and was proposed as part of the Canadian MMEV that never happened of course though
Considering how much more important SHORAD is because of drones I'd expect (or hope) laser-guided 70mm rockets are being looked at for integration onto Sergeant Stout (formerly Stryker IM-SHORAD). The ADATS missile would be a good option to have for that vehicle as well for use against higher performance targets, but after the Canadians lost interest in the MMEV LAV I imagine any production line is long gone and would need to be reestablished.
NASAMS, CAMM, Crotale, SPYDER, there are options.
Crotale has the advantage of having a hot production line. Might need a new warhead to be as equally effective on both air and ground targets, though. HEAT with a fragmentation sleeve, and maybe a load of buckshot in the mouth of the shaped charge.
SACLOS - Semi-Active Command Line of Sight, via (initially) the standard Rapier optical tracker and tracking camera. The operator manually keeps the tracker on the target, system generates steering commands for the missile based on the difference between the Optical Tracker and the tracking camera, which follows a flare on the rear of the missile. The steering commands are then transmitted to the missile by radio link.
You need something to tell you where to point the IR tracker, hence radar.
ADATS is a beam rider, TOW is wire-guided, so no. You need compatible guidance systems, not just physical size.
HATM died in 2002, apparently before selecting a guidance system, the Canadians axed ADATS in 2012. They're both scrap metal.
I mean, according to andreas there were tests, but idk how far it got along. It would've been cool to see HATM on the ADATS because it'd be great for anti-tank and anti-helicopter duties.
So wireless guiding, as in wire guided but RF?
Unguided flight trials.
Wow, that's way simpler than what I was expecting!
Surprised that it wasn't replaced with fiber optics.
Ah.
Except that AM RF link means you can jam the command signals.
Directional RF would also work, but the target would be alerted to being aimed at
