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  1. uk 75

    Trigat missile family

    Back in the Cold War the France, Germsny and the UK embarked on an ambitious programne to produce a family of third generation anti tank missiles. The only survivor is the long range helicopter launched version https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARS_3_LR. Like the SP70 gun and RS80 (described in...
  2. Jason Dykstra (Wyvern)

    Erprobungsträger mit 3-achs Stabilisiertem Turm

    This vehicle probably has the longest name for a tank I have ever seen, but there is something more special about than just the name. It had a 3-axis stabilisation system. Many World War 2 era American tanks, mainly on the Sherman, only had a stabilisation system in the vertical plane only...
  3. monochromelody

    Unknown Rheinmetall 75mm mortar/RCLR weapon system

    Happen to see this weird shoulder fired recoilless launcher several months ago, named Speer, 75mm caliber smoothbore. When looking for infos in Rheinmetall weapon handbook 1977, found this, Hellebarde, a vehicle mounted weapon, Düsenkanone=recoilless gun. Same caliber, similar effective range...
  4. L

    Leopard 2 prototypes

    During the development of Leopard 2, about seventeen different hulls (PT series) and turrets (T series) were built. At least two of the hulls (numbered PT11 and PT17) were fitted with hydropneumatic suspension and only six roadwheels. I managed to find only one small picture of such hull...
  5. P

    Did the Bundeswehr consider producing modernized Panzer V Panther in early 50's?

    G'day all I'm just going through some old documentation (yes hand written notes, so it's undoughtedly 1990's) and came across the following: "In early 50′s, the new Bundeswehr consideration to produced modernized Panzer V Panther tank with upgraded armament and electronics, but they elected to...
  6. R

    140mm smoothbore gun

    In the late 1980s, research started on the new next-generation tank gun. It was quickly determined that it needed to be 140mm calibre. Initially it was to fire the same projectiles as the 120mm gun but at a higher velocity from a similar smoothbore barrel. My question - what was the British...
  7. Grey Havoc

    Taktisches Luft-Verteidigungs-System (Tactical Air Defense System) [TLVS] 1980s

    The primary contractors on this late 1980s program were MBB, AEG and Siemens. Unfortunately it fell prey to the post-Cold War peace dividend, being cancelled in favour of what originally had been a stopgap program as far as Germany was concerned, the US led Advanced Tactical PATRIOT, later to...
  8. Michel Van

    ERNO Large Ariane 5 Return Capsule (LaReCa)

    As ESA discuss European Manned Spaceflight was a battle between Hermes Shuttle and Capsule Fraction Here the 1989 Proposal of ERNO "LaReCa" short for Large Ariane 5 Return Capsule It feature: -A large reusable Capsule for various mission -The use of full potential of Ariane 5 rocket...
  9. eshelon

    Gefechtspanzer Puma.

    Found today ;D
  10. M

    Unknown Leopard 2 or SP-70 tank chassis

    Hi everybody Here a unknown Leopard 2 ? or SP-70 ? tank chassis with 8 roadwheels . The website says it was a prototype for a bridgelayer. http://www.hartziel.de/index.htm?/_typen/vt_bruecke.htm www.hartziel.de/senne/seite3.htm http://www.preservedtanks.com/Types.aspx?TypeCategoryId=950 Maybe...
  11. richard

    HFB Luft-Yacht project .

    Unknown to me , those HFB projects : 2 Mappen - H.F.B. Flugzeugentwicklung Nachkrieg Flugzeugbau | eBay - Twin jet Flying boat " Luft-Yacht " : - HFB 146 transport - ( BTW the HFB 145 (later HFB C-209) was a modernized CASA 207 )
  12. Jemiba

    Dornier WIG Projects

    Triggered by the Lippisch developments, that were tested with the X-113 on Lake Constance, Dornier started research in that field during the 1970s, too, called "Stauflügelgerät" (. One project for a commercial transport was the P.477 for up to 27 passengers. Another one, desigantion unknown...
  13. Kiltonge

    Euromissile HOT

    Some interesting snippets of could-have-beens about HOT as I slowly work my way through the COMHART volume on anti-tank weapons http://www.scribd.com/doc/38606186/COMHART-T10-Armements-antichars-missiles-guides-et-non-guides-France-2008. 1. Initially the booster motor exhausted through two...
  14. Jemiba

    German Postwar Airship projects

    Nearly forgotten, another project is mentioned, from a company not really known for producing airships: At the beginning of the '70s, the Dornier AG had drawn projects for a passenger and a cargo carrying airship. Those studies were ordered by the "Flugschiffbau Hamburg GmbH", without precise...
  15. T

    RFB RF-1 Channel Wing STOL touring

    From an Australian what-ifer attempt to build a model of it (see http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,21379.1080.html ) I added comment: "In JAWA 1964-65, there is only (without picture): 'Development of the RFB RF 1 STOL touring aircraft, described in previous editions of Jane's, has...
  16. uk 75

    UK and FRG cooperation (Not the MBT 80, Challenger etc)

    I thought it might be helpful to tease out this aspect from the British centric discussion. Originally the West Germans intended to replace their M48s with the MBT 70, a joint production with the United States which ground to a halt because of complexity and high cost. German sources on the...
  17. M

    German postwar 4x4 projects Transportpanzer-2, Spähpanzer-3 and ATAK

    Hi everybody Anybody knows more about the german postwar 4x4 projects Transportpanzer-2 , Spähpanzer-3 and ATAK. Maybe anybody knows pictures of these vehicles ? Here the prototype of the ATAK (P3 from EWK) http://strangernn.livejournal.com/295605.html Here infos about the ATAK from EWK...
  18. Antonio

    MBB projects

    Found that profiles at my old mags. (Aviation & Marine International Sept. 1979) The quality is awful (it can hurt your eyes) as it was a second hand magazine and I had no choice to get a better copy. Could any of our German members post decent drawings and brief data of the Bo 125? And can...
  19. Maveric

    Projects???

    Hi all, can you translate or name this three projects(?)... Thanks Maveric
  20. S

    German Navalized ROLAND-II SAM system

    In the early to mid 1970's the German navy was experimenting with the navalization of both the Gepard SPAA gun system and the ROLAND-II surface to air missile system. I was wondering does anyone know if these systems were ever tested successfully and ever used? I remember seeing them in a old...
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