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Re: Western Artists' Concepts of Soviet aircraft during the Cold War
« Reply #90 on: January 09, 2008, 12:45:36 am »
The overall configuration is similar to Antonov's "M" fighter design, and associated E-153 glider. A number of detail differences though.

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Re: Western Artists' Concepts of Soviet aircraft during the Cold War
« Reply #91 on: January 09, 2008, 12:53:17 am »
Second tailless fighter is obviously someone's imagination from the Cold War era, but may be based on leaks on Antonov's OKB-153 'M' (Masha) fighter studies from late 40s - early 50s. Drawings are not a product of factory artist anyway - first of all, stars size are beyond any standarts, and cutaway is truly speculative - while a while was published here on 'M', no author has found anything like this in Antonov archives.

http://www.avia-an.ru/an_m.php
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/xplane/an.html
Photo shows E-153, unmotored flying testbed of 'M', which is closest thing to drawings, except lack of intakes, which glider just didn't need.
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Re: Western Artists' Concepts of Soviet aircraft during the Cold War
« Reply #92 on: January 09, 2008, 05:28:20 am »
About soviet fighter : Last year I their own eye  :o saw on one of the russian site this plane, as BICH-26 (1946).
Regrettably I have not saved their web address, and yesterday's (night), and present-day (matutinal) of the attempt nor to that have not brought... To my strong beliefs this is not reality. The Truth in answer Flateric. This is a collective image west artist early period of the cold war,  for base plane Antonov's. in this instance, like other ROMBOIDS
fighter :http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3266.msg26422;topicseen#msg26422
We shall Take to example one of like sources book D.MYHRA "Secret aircraft designs of the third reich " Shiffer M.H.(see please ris.1) If upper drawing this I-270 "Zh" OKB Mikoyan, or LL-1 Cybin  ;D then lower drawing An "M".
The Drawing 2 one more scenes from the same source.
(! Very indistinctive for soviet artist incommensurate stars!)
Respectfully yours Anatoliy.
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Re: Western Artists' Concepts of Soviet aircraft during the Cold War
« Reply #93 on: January 09, 2008, 10:59:04 am »
In 'Air Force -the magazine of Air Power'   March 1955
the straight winged aircraft is discribed as a rocket powered fighter
and designated Yak-21 !!! (by the author of the article)
Other sources - Le Moniteur de L'Aeronautique :May 1979 speaks about
the aircraft as the Type 11..

On the same pages in the Air Force magazine the Mig 'Romboid' ghost is also illustrated and
mention is made that it made test flight from Ramenskoye ....

Most probably these designs came from the fertile minds of some Western 'designers'
influenced  by the Cold War paranoia.

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Re: Western Artists' Concepts of Soviet aircraft during the Cold War
« Reply #94 on: January 09, 2008, 12:02:51 pm »
Thanks everybody to help me classify these drawings in the right way.
I have obtained a copy of the Flugzeug article and found the drawing in the book by David Myhra.

I thought that the Russian airplane could be a development from the German Arado E-583 project (please see attached drawings).

I was not sure whether the twin Starfighter was a serious project as this type of double fuselage airplanes usually have a common tailplane that is more structurally efficient.

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Re: Western Artists' Concepts of Soviet aircraft during the Cold War
« Reply #95 on: February 09, 2008, 05:59:43 pm »
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Re: Western Artists' Concepts of Soviet aircraft during the Cold War
« Reply #96 on: February 11, 2008, 12:47:35 am »
Very interesting!
As old Aurora kits:
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Re: Western Artists' Concepts of Soviet aircraft during the Cold War
« Reply #97 on: February 24, 2008, 10:46:17 am »
Hi,

the Tupolev Backfire speculation from Flightglobal in 1972, and the actual Backfire.
http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1972/1972%20-%202865.html?search=soviet%20sst%20aircraft%20project
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Re: Western Artists' Concepts of Soviet aircraft during the Cold War
« Reply #98 on: March 28, 2008, 09:53:06 am »
I was looking around Wikipedia, and I found the following image in the article about the Su-25.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b2/Su-25artistconcept.jpg

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Re: Western Artists' Concepts of Soviet aircraft during the Cold War
« Reply #99 on: March 28, 2008, 12:30:52 pm »
Not too bad, I think, if the only basis perhaps was a blurred planview photo from a satellite.
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Re: Western Artists' Concepts of Soviet aircraft during the Cold War
« Reply #100 on: March 29, 2008, 03:02:08 pm »

        This one was from one of the early '80s USDOD series pubs, "Soviet Military Power 198x". 1983 I think.



I was looking around Wikipedia, and I found the following image in the article about the Su-25.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b2/Su-25artistconcept.jpg

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Re: Western Artists' Concepts of Soviet aircraft during the Cold War
« Reply #102 on: April 20, 2008, 11:58:18 am »
"Sukhoi Su-1 and Su-2"
Well, although in this case at least the manufacturer was identified correctly
and the designation was wisely marked as "Flight designation" .
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Re: Western Artists' Concepts of Soviet aircraft during the Cold War
« Reply #103 on: May 11, 2008, 01:03:38 pm »
Hughes Air Defence Systems - Soviet Stealth Bomber -  "The Threat".
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Re: Western Artists' Concepts of Soviet aircraft during the Cold War
« Reply #104 on: May 11, 2008, 08:18:12 pm »
That's a nice one. 
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