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Offline JFC Fuller

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Challenger variants
« on: June 02, 2012, 01:43:57 pm »
A Challenger I hull was trialled with the Marconi Marksman anti-aircraft turret (pictures attached) and according to multiple publications a Challenger I hull was also trialled with the Vickers GBT 155mm turret, does anyone have any pictures of this combination? There seems to be a distinct lack of any images of this turret at all.

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Re: Challenger variants
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2012, 04:34:23 pm »
Marksman and GBT brochures:

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Re: Challenger variants
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2012, 04:34:59 pm »
I also found a picture of the GBT turret on a Mk 3 hull. Thought you might be interested.

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Re: Challenger variants
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2012, 08:00:23 pm »
Marksman turret on Challenger I and GBT turret on Vickers Mk 3.

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Re: Challenger variants
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2012, 09:39:47 pm »
Marksman was bought by Finland for use on T-55 hulls IIRC.

GBT was an expensive and overly heavy solution to the SPG concept.   Why have a fully MBT level armoured hull hauling around a (comparatively) light-weight turret?

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Re: Challenger variants
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2012, 01:22:20 am »
Kadija_Man,

Thank you for the pictures, do you happen to have the rest of the Challenger GBT brochure?

Agreed about the weight, ultimately the GBT technology was taken and put on a bespoke (and much lighter and with a much less powerful engine) chassis to become the AS90.

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Re: Challenger variants
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2013, 11:41:31 am »
One more of the Challenger GBT that I just stumbled upon:


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Re: Challenger variants
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2013, 09:58:35 am »
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2013, 12:34:53 pm »
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2015, 03:01:29 am »
Speaking of the Finnish Marksman turrets: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?245310
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2018, 09:36:53 am »
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Re: Challenger variants
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2019, 03:34:15 am »

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Re: Challenger variants
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2019, 02:38:36 pm »
I don't mean to deviate off topic, but can anyone direct me to any information as to why/on what grounds the Finnish Army selected the Marksman turret system over other obvious established in-production and service proven SPAAG systems?


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