Vultee Aircraft Projects

[hesham]

My dears,

there was a lot of this company projects not discovered,such as
V-42,V-44,V-45 and V-46 were single seat fighters,V-55 was bomber,
V-56 was single seat fighter and V-62 was two seat basic trainer project
developed from BC-3 but not built.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

V-69 was a single engined dive bomber project,and XTBV was
single engined torpedo bomber project,it was not even mentioned
in USA serials and designations book.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

V-70 was pusher single seat fighter powered by one Allison
engine,but I don't know it was twin boom or not,V-83 was
a single seat fighter developed from V-48 Vanguard,project
only.

 

[Stargazer2006]

I'm currently recompiling all my notes and reorganizing my list of Vultee designations 1-90.

Most Vultee designs are accounted for, but I'm still at a loss for the model number of the XP-68 Tornado (a development of the XP-54... Tophe could help, maybe?), the XA-31C, and the Vidal XBT-16 with a duramold fuselage (IF it carried a separate Vultee number, which I really do not know).

I'm especially faced with a mystery over the Model 74 designation: many sources claim that the V-74 was a prototype of the L-1 VIGILANT family with full-span automatic slots and slotted flaps for Army evaluation as liaison.

Many other sources claim that the Model 74 was BT-13A/SNV-1 (with the BT-15 as Model 74A)...

As the latter option seems better documented I tend to rely on it more... but I also bear in mind that the other two Stinson design taken over by Vultee carried the following V-75 (first prototype of L-5) and V-76 (modified Stinson 105) designations... Could it be that the same designator was reused, considering the two aircraft were contemporary?? This seems highly unlikely. Thanks for any help on this subject!

 

[Tophe]

V-70 was pusher single seat fighter powered by one Allison
engine,but I don't know it was twin boom or not

It was, see my site with a drawing and source mentionned:
http://cmeunier.chez-alice.fr/update_FG.htm

 

[Stargazer2006]

From an old issue of Airpower/Wings: Vultee's XP-46-2 (inside designation for eXperimental pursuit - Vultee Model 46 - second variant), a competitor of the Lockheed P-38 (let the mods move it to the X-608 thread if they see it fit).

 

[hesham]

Great find my dear Stargazer.

 

[blockhaj]

Can we get an update on this, plus a preliminary list in the OP?

 

[hesham]

Can we get an update on this, plus a preliminary list in the OP?

My dear Blockhaj,what is this ?,I can't open it,and what OP ?.

 

[hesham]

Can we get an update on this, plus a preliminary list in the OP?

Do you meant Vultee P series ?.

 

[Arjen]

OP - Original Post
I believe blockhaj would like a list of as many Vultee project designations as have been found until now.

Vultee P series - nothing I am familiar with.

 

[hesham]

OP - Original Post
I believe blockhaj would like a list of as many Vultee project designations as have been found until now.

Vultee P series - nothing I am familiar with.

My dear Arjen,

the P series was really existed,but nothing about it in Vultee book,but we know
only VP-43-3,a strato lightweight fighter project,obviously the "43" indicated to
the year and not a particular sequence ?.

 

[Arjen]

we know only VP-43-3,

From which source?

 

[hesham]

we know only VP-43-3,

From which source?

What a question my dear Arjen ?!.

 

[Arjen]

Thanks. The VP 43-3 proposal was submitted shortly after Vultee merged with Consolidated in 1943, it can be found in Convair Advanced Designs II by Robert Bradley, Crécy 2013. Chapter 6, pages 41-43.

 

[blockhaj]

Can we get an update on this, plus a preliminary list in the OP?

My dear Blockhaj,what is this ?,I can't open it,and what OP ?.

That is my broken signature i assume?

OP = original post
Can you add a project list to the original post so we can keep track of projects and their numbers, etc: V-1, V-2, V-3, etc

 

[blockhaj]

OP - Original Post
I believe blockhaj would like a list of as many Vultee project designations as have been found until now.

Vultee P series - nothing I am familiar with.

My dear Arjen,

the P series was really existed,but nothing about it in Vultee book,but we know
only VP-43-3,a strato lightweight fighter project,obviously the "43" indicated to
the year and not a particular sequence ?.

VP-43 sounds like a counter design to the P-43 Lancer (known initially as YP-43, Y for Republic)

 

[hesham]

OP - Original Post
I believe blockhaj would like a list of as many Vultee project designations as have been found until now.

Vultee P series - nothing I am familiar with.

My dear Arjen,

the P series was really existed,but nothing about it in Vultee book,but we know
only VP-43-3,a strato lightweight fighter project,obviously the "43" indicated to
the year and not a particular sequence ?.

VP-43 sounds like a counter design to the P-43 Lancer (known initially as YP-43, Y for Republic)

My dear Blockhaj,

for Vultee V series,please see it here;

Vultee

- For VP-43,it was a series belonged to Vultee after merged with Consolidated to form Convair,and nothing to do with Republic P-43 Lancer at all.

 

[Arjen]

The Republic P-43 first flew in 1940, Bradley wrote the VP-43 was proposed to a 1943 Design Directive - probably from the USAAF - in the same period the Douglas XP-48 and Tucker XP-47 were proposed. An unnamed North American design was produced to an earlier requirement, meanwhile Bell developed the XP-77. Of all these small interceptor designs, only the XP-77 was built - initiated in 1941, first flown in 1944.

 

[hesham]

The Republic P-43 first flew in 1940, Bradley wrote the VP-43 was proposed to a Design Directive - probably from the USAAF -

I will explain from where this number came,as I suggest,we know Vultee XP-1015
and XC-1031,called "1000" series for projects and experimental aircraft,and in 1942 the combination had been done,as I guess the same sequence was continued but
the number thousand was deleted to be only '"43",I hope you get my point.