Schmalturm & Other Drafts of Panzers

[ArmchairSamurai]

Hello, just found this link; I thought I would share its contents with you all: https://alternathistory.com/yurij-pasholok-orudie-pobolshe-na-tom-zhe-shassi/



And these were hiding in the comments, one is defintely the Schmalturm, the others, not sure

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[Nik]

Nice find !
But, snark:
"Aaargh !! Over-lapping road-wheels !! Quick, set him straight about 'Field Serviceability' before irate mechanics lynch him !!"
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[JFC Fuller]

Interesting, these look like the originals behind the oft-reproduced Panzer-Tracts drawings of the following, at least based on deciphering the descriptions in the bottom right-hand corners:

1. Panzer 38T with the Panzer IV turret (not a schmalturm)
2. Panzer IV with a schmalturm derivative with the 75mm L70
3. Panther with an 88mm in a Schmalturm (November 1944 proposal, things apparently kept moving after this)
4. Tiger with 105mm L68
5. 128mm Jagdpanther concept
6. Another Panther with an 88mm in a Schmalturm drawing
7. Apparently an 88mm L71 installed in a heavily redesigned Panzer IV chassis, but it doesn't seem to be the Hornisse

 

[Newtonk]

There is this, an SPG on the Panzer V chassis.

 

[Elan Vital]

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There is this, an SPG on the Panzer V chassis.

They say very clearly that it's a Panther, though.

 

[ArmchairSamurai]

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There is this, an SPG on the Panzer V chassis.

They say very clearly that it's a Panther, though.

Panzer V is a Panther...

 

[Elan Vital]

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There is this, an SPG on the Panzer V chassis.

They say very clearly that it's a Panther, though.

Panzer V is a Panther...

Ah, read Pz IV for a bit

 

[ArmchairSamurai]

Update: https://dzen.ru/a/YtAUOxrxOnpy28yH

One of the website's sources is credited to the Bundesarchiv, so I wonder if one could get better-resolution scans of them all.

 

[ArmchairSamurai]

Also I found these too; I might as well flesh out this thread a bit more.

 

[ArmchairSamurai]

Speaking of better quality! That's all I have folks...

 

[Slakrrrrrr]

Ah screw it, have some Waffenträgers:

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[Slakrrrrrr]

Some Schmalturms and WWI drawings as well:

 

[Slakrrrrrr]

Update: https://dzen.ru/a/YtAUOxrxOnpy28yH

One of the website's sources is credited to the Bundesarchiv, so I wonder if one could get better-resolution scans of them all.

Here's a link to the document containing these blueprints. If you ever want to find the source document for something in the Bundesarchiv, just look for the archivsignatur, and search for it on the "Suche" (Search) page under "Signatur". In this particular case, it's "RH 8/3933K".

https://invenio.bundesarchiv.de/invenio/direktlink/14c86230-6172-4ab9-a440-1a235473d2de/

 

[ArmchairSamurai]

Here's a link to the document containing these blueprints. If you ever want to find the source document for something in the Bundesarchiv, just look for the archivsignatur, and search for it on the "Suche" (Search) page under "Signatur". In this particular case, it's "RH 8/3933K".

https://invenio.bundesarchiv.de/invenio/direktlink/14c86230-6172-4ab9-a440-1a235473d2de/

I appreciate the advice greatly!