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hesham

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Do you know that designer ? Gashulyak,Yaroslav

his name isn't mention in the book THE OSPREY ENCYCLOPEDIA OF
RUSSIAN AIRCRAFT 1875-1995.

he designed and built the G-1 a single seat helicopter, which powered
by Irbit two-cylinder motor-cycle enige in spring of 1961.
 

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Nothing about it up to now ?.
 

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Hi,

here is anther little know Russian helicopter,and from google translate;

Helicopter V. Getmantsev. In 1969 in Kuibyshev, V. Getmantsev began to design a helicopter (fig.) Of a pine scheme with two three-bladed bearing screws, which was built in 1971.
Two-cylinder two-stroke air-cooled engine of its own design with a reducer and a column of coaxial rotors were made in the form of a separate unit, which was hinged to the frame of the helicopter over the back of the pilot's seat (above its head). The gasoline tank of the ring form was installed on a column of rotors above the engine.
Two control knobs were rigidly attached to the engine. Deviation of them to the right-left, forward and backward control of the helicopter. At the ends of the control knobs, a rotary engine speed control knob and a clutch lever were installed. To the control knobs, in addition, the curved radial windshield of the open cockpit of the pilot was attached.

http://www.reaa.ru/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1171058178/504
 

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Hi Hesham :D
Sorry, but cannot help on the Gushalak heli. Here is a somewhat better picture of the Germantzev heli.
Please also see: http://www.reaa.ru/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?action=print;num=1311180699
If anyone has plans to visit Russia, I will not mind if you bring a copy of that book for me ::)
 

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Thank you my dear Walter,

and here is an individual helicopter from ILA.

https://military.wikireading.ru/55803
 

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What was this ?;

http://www.reaa.ru/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1171058178/all
 

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hesham said:
What was this ?;
This is a homebuilt helicopter, probably unnamed, built by reaa.ru forum member Dim64 and his teammates in Saratov. In February 2008 (when these replies were posted on the forum) it was still uncompleted, and the authors tried to sell it to some other helicopter enthusiast(s). It was powered by two 30-hp Vikhr' (Whirlwind in Russian) engines (it is an outboard motor for boats, initially, but it's a popular powerplant for ultralight homebuilt aircraft in Russia) which are working for a common shaft. It was still unclear if such a powerplant powerful enough to take the helicopter into air or not. Empty weight of the helicopter was 210 kg. That's all I can say.
 

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Thank you my dear Redstar.
 

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hesham said:
Do you know that designer ? Gashulyak,Yaroslav

his name isn't mention in the book THE OSPREY ENCYCLOPEDIA OF
RUSSIAN AIRCRAFT 1875-1995.

he designed and built the G-1 a single seat helicopter, which powered
by Irbit two-cylinder motor-cycle enige in spring of 1961.
And from JAWA 1963.
 

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here is anther little know Russian helicopter,and from google translate;

Helicopter V. Getmantsev. In 1969 in Kuibyshev, V. Getmantsev began to design a helicopter (fig.) Of a pine scheme with two three-bladed bearing screws, which was built in 1971.
Two-cylinder two-stroke air-cooled engine of its own design with a reducer and a column of coaxial rotors were made in the form of a separate unit, which was hinged to the frame of the helicopter over the back of the pilot's seat (above its head). The gasoline tank of the ring form was installed on a column of rotors above the engine.
Two control knobs were rigidly attached to the engine. Deviation of them to the right-left, forward and backward control of the helicopter. At the ends of the control knobs, a rotary engine speed control knob and a clutch lever were installed. To the control knobs, in addition, the curved radial windshield of the open cockpit of the pilot was attached.

From JAWA 1973-1974,

there was also a Sverchok-1.
 

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From Sailplane and Glider 9/1952,

I can't ID this Russian helicopter,they called it Smolenske,but I don't know if that was the designer
or what ?.
 

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From Sailplane and Glider 9/1952,

I can't ID this Russian helicopter,they called it Smolenske,but I don't know if that was the designer
or what ?.
From Aviation magazine 1956,

I can't translate well,so what was the designer name ?.
 

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The text says "the engineer from Moscow named M.A. Kupfer". The title spells it "Kaupfer".
I don't which is a typo, but Kupfer is the German word for copper, found in many names.
 

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The text says "the engineer from Moscow named M.A. Kupfer". The title spells it "Kaupfer".
I don't which is a typo, but Kupfer is the German word for copper, found in many names.
My dear Dan,and what was Smolensk ?.
 

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Smolensk is the name of the machine designed by Mr Kupfer/Kaupfer. It is an "elementary helicopter trainer without an engine", which is the point of the competition set up by Lt-general Karnanine, for the cheap elementary training of heli pilots.
Don't ask me how it works, it doesn't make sense to me, especially when looking at the drawing. But obviously it did for MMsrs Karnanine, Kupfer and the other nameless participant.
 

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I think the idea is that it's an autogyro. The jeep tows the 'gyro along the ground with the first rope, while the second rope, attached to the ground, spins up the rotor, allowing the 'gyro to take off. I'm not sure if the 'gyro is able to cast off and fly free or not, perhaps someone can translate the article ?

cheers,
Robin.
 

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From Aviation magazine 1959,

here is a small helicopter,designed by Starinine,Serebsov and Braginski ?.
 

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Please find some details on this light helicopter. The spelling of the names of the 3 designers/builders may vary with the source.
single-seat helicopter
one 22lb PVRD M-1 pulse jet engine
rotor diameter 22.965ft; length 14.763ft; height 5.906ft
DETAILS: The SBIG M1 small experimental helicopter design was attributed to Messrs. J.L. Starinina, Zerebcova and J.S. Braginsky, reportedly all engineers with the Bratukhin OKB. The aircraft had one 22lb PVRD M-1 pulse jet at one of the the rotor blade tips and it appeared around 1950. Reportedly the M-1 was used for tethered trials and in 1951 all work was halted.
Production: 1.
 

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