Russian 3M22 Tsirkon Hypersonic Missile

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So far it looks similar to Brahmos/Yakhont/Oniks but seems to aim for higher altitude during boost.
 

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What if Zirkon is just upgraded P800 with just semi ballistic flight profile.
 

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flying the same launch profile as previous "Zircon" tests, i.e. more of a climbing attitude than horizontal like Onyx/Brahmos.
And?... P-700/800 both have two flight profiles, hi-low and low-low.
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So it’s a M9 (top speed according to Russia/Putin) air breather? This would be the most advance air breathing engine tech that’s ever been produced into a weapon system no?

Yet there seems to be very little if any analysis of this engine that I’ve seen or read. Or am I missing something?
 

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flying the same launch profile as previous "Zircon" tests, i.e. more of a climbing attitude than horizontal like Onyx/Brahmos.
And?... P-700/800 both have two flight profiles, hi-low and low-low.
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True, so are we saying these so-called "Zircon" launches have been Oniks all along? How to tell the difference between a "Zircon" and an "Onyx"?
 

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so are we saying these so-called "Zircon" launches have been Oniks all along?
No, since footage i provided with gif clearly shows it's not Onyx. I'm just saying launch trajectory is not indicative at all.
 

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So it’s a M9 (top speed according to Russia/Putin) air breather? This would be the most advance air breathing engine tech that’s ever been produced into a weapon system no?

Yet there seems to be very little if any analysis of this engine that I’ve seen or read. Or am I missing something?

It would certainly be the fastest air breathing weapon by a wide margin, to my knowledge, assuming the Mach 8-9 figures being throw around are correct. We don't really know anything about it outside that released figure and the footage we've seen.
 

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so are we saying these so-called "Zircon" launches have been Oniks all along?
No, since footage i provided with gif clearly shows it's not Onyx. I'm just saying launch trajectory is not indicative at all.
Given that's virtually the ONLY video out there showing Onyx/Brahmos in a higher angle launch trajectory (assuming it's Onyx) I disagree. Most are more like this one:

 

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Hate to be "that guy" but it's blurred out so it could be almost anything and the impact looks subsonic.
 

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Dunno... in similar impact videos the missile (even that South Korean Oniks clone, a supersonic type) is generally discernible if you slow the playback speed down, here it remains blurred. Could be censoring, as in the launch footage (damn them!), but I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. There's also the fact that it seems to be diving, while Oniks impacts are typically sea-skimming (yes, it has an optional high-altitude trajectory, but that is rarely shown), which fits a hypersonic weapon. Not sure it was carrying a warhead either, and if that is correct the obvious severity of the impact is something to consider, too.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G22cyimEs4
 

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