Russian 3M22 Tsirkon Hypersonic Missile

[Scar]

think we finally get to see what Zircon look like with the slow motion video

Looks Onyx for me.

This is Zircon.

 

[sferrin]

So far it looks similar to Brahmos/Yakhont/Oniks but seems to aim for higher altitude during boost.

 

[Hanz2k]

What if Zirkon is just upgraded P800 with just semi ballistic flight profile.

 

[sferrin]

What if Zirkon is just upgraded P800 with just semi ballistic flight profile.

I was thinking something like Shaurya but smaller maybe.

 

[sferrin]

think we finally get to see what Zircon look like with the slow motion video

Looks Onyx for me.

This is Zircon.
View attachment 674905

It's flying the same launch profile as previous "Zircon" tests, i.e. more of a climbing attitude than horizontal like Onyx/Brahmos.

 

[Scar]

flying the same launch profile as previous "Zircon" tests, i.e. more of a climbing attitude than horizontal like Onyx/Brahmos.

And?... P-700/800 both have two flight profiles, hi-low and low-low.

 

[bobbymike]

So it’s a M9 (top speed according to Russia/Putin) air breather? This would be the most advance air breathing engine tech that’s ever been produced into a weapon system no?

Yet there seems to be very little if any analysis of this engine that I’ve seen or read. Or am I missing something?

 

[sferrin]

flying the same launch profile as previous "Zircon" tests, i.e. more of a climbing attitude than horizontal like Onyx/Brahmos.

And?... P-700/800 both have two flight profiles, hi-low and low-low.
View attachment 674928

True, so are we saying these so-called "Zircon" launches have been Oniks all along? How to tell the difference between a "Zircon" and an "Onyx"?

 

[sferrin]

think we finally get to see what Zircon look like with the slow motion video

Looks Onyx for me.

This is Zircon.
View attachment 674905

How's that different than Onyx?

 

[Scar]

so are we saying these so-called "Zircon" launches have been Oniks all along?

No, since footage i provided with gif clearly shows it's not Onyx. I'm just saying launch trajectory is not indicative at all.

 

[Josh_TN]

So it’s a M9 (top speed according to Russia/Putin) air breather? This would be the most advance air breathing engine tech that’s ever been produced into a weapon system no?

Yet there seems to be very little if any analysis of this engine that I’ve seen or read. Or am I missing something?

It would certainly be the fastest air breathing weapon by a wide margin, to my knowledge, assuming the Mach 8-9 figures being throw around are correct. We don't really know anything about it outside that released figure and the footage we've seen.

 

[sferrin]

so are we saying these so-called "Zircon" launches have been Oniks all along?

No, since footage i provided with gif clearly shows it's not Onyx. I'm just saying launch trajectory is not indicative at all.

Given that's virtually the ONLY video out there showing Onyx/Brahmos in a higher angle launch trajectory (assuming it's Onyx) I disagree. Most are more like this one:

 

[aonestudio]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1502921689495134211

View: https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1502921689495134211

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1502923617914527746

View: https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1502923617914527746

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N70k2bn-zo

 

[sferrin]

Hate to be "that guy" but it's blurred out so it could be almost anything and the impact looks subsonic.

 

[Trident]

Dunno... in similar impact videos the missile (even that South Korean Oniks clone, a supersonic type) is generally discernible if you slow the playback speed down, here it remains blurred. Could be censoring, as in the launch footage (damn them!), but I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. There's also the fact that it seems to be diving, while Oniks impacts are typically sea-skimming (yes, it has an optional high-altitude trajectory, but that is rarely shown), which fits a hypersonic weapon. Not sure it was carrying a warhead either, and if that is correct the obvious severity of the impact is something to consider, too.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G22cyimEs4

 

[stealthflanker]

They really shy to depict the missile.