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in American University of Cairo,I saw in 1990s a book,that old USA aircraft actually built with five
or six wing,mounted in tandem,I try to draw it,but sorry I am not good in paint,I asked this
question before,but I got no clear answer.
 

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Re: USA 5/6 Wing in Tandem Aircraft ?

Were the wings staggered?

Maybe you are thinking of the Jerome Slough Zerbe's various designs?
 

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My dear Avimimus,


I know Zerbe aircraft very well,but the aircraft which I meant it,had a single engine and normal
fuselage looks like fighters of WW1,but stretch enough to have five or six wing mounted in
tandem and each one had a shoulder-wing configuration,and if you see it from front,you will
think it had a one wing,because they are on a one level or same level on the contrary of Zerbe
forms.
 

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I get it,it was from Mr. Howard Huntington,a design of 1914;

http://www.aerofiles.com/huntington.jpg
 

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And here some airplanes of those concept;

http://www.oobject.com/category/15-aircraft-with-lots-of-wings/
 

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hesham said:
I get it,it was from Mr. Howard Huntington,a design of 1914;

http://www.aerofiles.com/huntington.jpg
Hi, hesham, did You have 3-view of it?
 

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Vladimir said:
hesham said:
I get it,it was from Mr. Howard Huntington,a design of 1914;

http://www.aerofiles.com/huntington.jpg
Hi, hesham, did You have 3-view of it?
No my dear Vladimir,

but I hope someone has ?.
 

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Hi,

we displayed this aircraft before as a Humorous aircraft,but it was not,it is a real Multi-wing
aircraft design,page 105.

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,21471.45.html

https://books.google.com.eg/books?id=wF6MmgXsYJAC&printsec=frontcover&hl=ar&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
 

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Hi,

here is anther four multi-wing airplanes and one helicopter;

A Bousson-Borgnis Triplane from 1908
The Humphreys Waterplane, the earliest hydro-aeroplane, built in 1908-1909
A helicopter by Wilbur R. Kimball, 1909
The first special military airplane ever built, designed by Capt. Jean Dorand in 1909
The Seddon Mayfly, a tandem biplane,1910

http://io9.gizmodo.com/these-bizarre-multi-winged-planes-are-historys-most-a-1484799626
 

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Another early multi-wing effort, from the Kentucky digital library at http://kdl.kyvl.org/catalog/xt78gt5fc73b_19_37?
The only information I've seen is that it comes from the collection of a certain John Jacob Niles. Anybody has more information?

One wonders if the gear needs improving, or if VTOL is expected from so many lifting surfaces? (Even so, without improvement the first landing could be the last)
The engine remains a mystery to me.

Any clues about designer, date and place?
 

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dan_inbox said:
One wonders if the gear needs improving, or if VTOL is expected from so many lifting surfaces? (Even so, without improvement the first landing could be the last)
The engine remains a mystery to me.
I would say that the picture shows the plane still under construction, with the 'pilot' just ground testing the control surfaces and such.
 

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About multi wings like biplanes and triplanes. What I see and to my current knowledge these planes had much larger wing area and thus need slower speeds for take-off and landing and if bothered to put flaps on all wings could be much more agile than single wing aircraft but they also generate more drag and need more power to achieve the same speed.
But weren't there any biplane projects from the jet era? Featuring jet engines and or delta or swept wings?
Maybe not for fighters but for those planes which need to lift large amount of mass like bombers and cargo planes?

(I played ages ago with Crimson Skies and the Devastator plane in it looked awesome!)
https://www.google.hu/search?q=crimson+skies+devastator&biw=1600&bih=765&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjA1Iuj7sXLAhWDKJoKHa_tA-oQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=_
 

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Hi Tzoli,

your opinion is considerable,but we must don't forget Quadruplane fighters,they
had four-wings.
 

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PZL M-15 Belphegor was the only jet-powered biplane manufactured in significant numbers. It was also the slowest jet ever manufactured, cruising at barely 100 knots ... fine for precise crop-dusting, but slow cruising to the next job.
The prototype flew in 1973, in Russia, but production soon shifted to Poland. The M-15 was designed to dust crops on huge Russian collective farms, but proved uneconomical, so only 175 were manufactured.
Most collective farms dusted off (pun) their long-serving AN-2 biplanes.
Meanwhile capitalist crop- dusters slowly converted their crop-dusters to turbo-props as they wore-out the last WW2-surplus radial engines.
 

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Hi,

here is unknown or unidentified quadruplane ?.

http://chezpeps.free.fr/0/pre-1914/02-51_100-copy_paste_Breguet-Pre-1914-Aircraft-Challenge.html
 

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A multi-wing airplane from Mr. Merx ;

http://chezpeps.free.fr/0/pre-1914/05-201_250-copy_paste_Breguet-Pre-1914-Aircraft-Challenge.html
 

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Fünfdecker is not the man's name, it means quintuplane in German.
According to the site, Mr J. Merx designed a quintuplane and named it Himmelsleiter or sky-ladder.
 

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Indeed, Himmelsleiter was the nickname of this 1911 unsuccesful design.
 

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Hi,

Capt. Hayot was a French designer,he created a 16-wing airplane in early 1910s.

French Aeroplanes Before the Great War
 

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Koolhoven (Armstrong-Whitworth?) F.K.11

In 1916, Fritz Koolhoven had arrived at the F.K.8, a biplane two-seater air scout, which proved to be exceptionally successful. No less than 1,650 were produced for the Royal Flying Corps. At the same time Koolhoven also created a number of (very) experimental designs, such as the F.K.10 quadruplane and the F.K.11 multiplane.

The ambitious F.K.11 with its fifteen wing levels remained an unbuilt project although a model was displayed at the 1936 Paris Air Show as part of a Koolhoven retrospective.

Source:
De Nederlandse vliegtuigen (Wesselink, Theo; Postma, Thijs 1982). ISBN 90 228 3792 0.
 

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Hi,
another multi-wings (quintuplane? tandem-wings?) aircraft is the Fokker V8, build only as a prototype after the successful Dr.1 triplane:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_V.8

A model company realized a resin kit of this aircraft; the picture on the right (also on Wikipedia) maybe is the only one existing of the V8, while the picture on the left is obviously a fake... :eek:

http://www.anigrand.com/AA2091_V-8.htm

BTW, does anyone have a three-view of this unusual aircraft?
 

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By pure chance (I was looking for something else) I found on an old magazine (WW1 Aero, N. 120, July 1988, p.64) a three-view of the Fokker V-8. A really weird airplane !!
So, in the previous post I made the question, then I answered by myself ... ;D
 

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Hi Temistocle,

the Fokker V.8 was one from my favorite aircraft.
 

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Re: Multi-Wings Airplanes & Projects

Hi,

here is a two unknown Italian designers,Mr. Lachman and Mr. Robiola,they invented
amazing multi-wing airplane Projects.

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Aeronautica/L'Aeronautica%201932%2006.pdf
 

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We need an Italian speaker to read this and comment but it seems to me that Attilio Robiola is accusing Lachman, or Lachmann, both spelling are used, of plagiarism. As these are multi-aerofoil model I think that this may be Gustav Lachmann, chief designer at Handley-Page, who drew up ideas for multi-aerofoil wings in 1917.
 

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I don't read Italian either , but it seems that Lachmann was only an advisor for a man named Thomas A.Lake ...
 

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richard said:
I don't read Italian either , but it seems that Lachmann was only an advisor for a man named Thomas A.Lake ...
My dear Richard,is that meaning Mr. Lachmann was not the designer or what ?.
 

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I think , but I am not sure , that Mr.Lake was the designer : We must wait for more info from an italian speaking member ...
 

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The second paragraph of the article, where Lachmann is mentioned twice, is where it appears that Robiola is accusing him of copying. The model is also labelled as Lachman's but it does not look much like his ideas for a multi-aerofoil wing where the aerofoils were much closer together and each had a different incidence. This was the starting point for the development of the Handley-Page slot.
 

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OK guys,

and for Robiola,I heard he designed anther airplane,maybe with a normal shape.
 

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Hi,

here is a patent for a multi-wing airplane from Bulgaria.

Flieger Revue Extra 42
 

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Hi,

here is a multi-wing airplane from Ye.S. Fedorov.

http://www.airwar.ru/other/sobolev/htmls/t1g4.html
 

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Re: Multi-Wings Airplanes & Projects

hesham said:
here is a two unknown Italian designers,Mr. Lachman and Mr. Robiola,they invented
amazing multi-wing airplane Projects.

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Aeronautica/L'Aeronautica%201932%2006.pdf
Hi,

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=4OIDAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
 

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Here is a two multi-wing airplane Patents.

https://www.zazzle.com/1914_flying_machine_airplane_patent_art_drawing_poster-228099896700133554
https://www.zazzle.com/1917_flying_machine_airplane_patent_art_drawing_poster-228575221699194594
 
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