Mikhail Sukhanov Projects

[hesham]

Bartini "kolzeplan" - one of T-217 variants.
From forthcoming book "Bartini and his projects 1946-1952" by Konstantin Udalov and Marek Rys

Oh my God,you made my day,thank you my dear Ucon for this beast.

 

[athpilot]

Bartini "kolzeplan" - one of T-217 variants.
From forthcoming book "Bartini and his projects 1946-1952" by Konstantin Udalov and Marek Rys

This is so cool! B) Can´t wait for the upcoming book.

 

[Justo Miranda]

Sukhanov Diskoplan Gliders

 

[hole in the ground]

Going back to the french snippet posted here: post #35 by Cy-27

Im trying to understand what the propulsion configuration is. I've google translated: "entrainant une helice carenee avec soufflante integree" via google to: "driving a faired propeller with integrated blower" but am now stumped to compare what I see in the sketch to that. The integrated blower I assume is a supercharger. Is the faired propeller a ducted fan? Or is the whole thing a thermojet type arrangement? I'd be interested in your interpretations. Cheers

 

[flateric]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ1XiIMgLck

 

[hesham]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ1XiIMgLck

Very good,

but it was not stable in its takeoff or landing,it must have this small wing.

 

[hesham]

From, Техника - молодёжи 1964-02

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[NEST OF DRAGONS]

Very good,

but it was not stable in its takeoff or landing,it must have this small wing.

I don't think that the small extra wing, which you mention, is needed. I think that the steering should be progressive. In the middle very delicate, at the outsides of the stick movement more rough. In other words: for example in the middle of the stick movement 1 cm of stick movement results in 1 degree deflection, at the ends of the stick movement 1 cm of stick movement results in 5 degree deflection.

I know of a progressive steering system in Flying Fleas. But that is a system that only works in 1 dimension. For Flying Fleas the progressive steering goes to the rudder. Not sure if it can be used together with a mixer to steer both elevons at once.

 

[Ordovician]

Bartini "kolzeplan" - one of T-217 variants.
From forthcoming book "Bartini and his projects 1946-1952" by Konstantin Udalov and Marek Rys

Wonderfull if you have schemes of the Bartini's T-217 variants publish please

 

[Ordovician]

Bartini "kolzeplan" - one of T-217 variants.
From forthcoming book "Bartini and his projects 1946-1952" by Konstantin Udalov and Marek Rys

Well, this is fantastic. It looks to me like the fuselage of an Il-86 or Il-96, although it seems considerably wider, with ground effect and optimized maneuvering areas at airports. However, given the growing problem of bird ingestion, we would have to find a solution that wouldn't negate the benefits of this design. Please post if you have more information or where to find more data about this design.

 

[igor-mich]

Wonderfull if you have schemes of the Bartini's T-217 variants publish please

https://cardkit.ru/katalog/literatura/izdatelstvo-udalova/bartini-i-ego-proekty-kniga-2

 

[hesham]

From this book.

 

[World B4]

Ruslet has some pages on these cool little gliders
https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-technika/m-v-suchanov/diskoplan-1/
https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-technika/m-v-suchanov/diskoplan-2/
And also the mystery discoplan, which looks to me like it was meant to be air dropped. Idk whom the site is quoting, but it is described as a crewed tech demonstrator for an uncrewed Venus flyer project.
https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-technika/m-v-suchanov/diskoplan-/

 

[hesham]

Ruslet has some pages on these cool little gliders
https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-technika/m-v-suchanov/diskoplan-1/
https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-technika/m-v-suchanov/diskoplan-2/
And also the mystery discoplan, which looks to me like it was meant to be air dropped. Idk whom the site is quoting, but it is described as a crewed tech demonstrator for an uncrewed Venus flyer project.
https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-technika/m-v-suchanov/diskoplan-/

Nice find