M1 Abrams Family of Vehicles Export Sales

[GTX]

Some comments on Australian usage:

https://www.armyrecognition.com/new...-sepv3-abrams-tanks-for-amphibious-operations

 

[GTX]

I don't expect this will result in a sale:

https://www.armyrecognition.com/new...in-self-propelled-howitzers-under-eda-program
More likely the Greeks would stay with Leopard 2 variants. I may be proven wrong though...

 

[GTX]

https://www.armyrecognition.com/new...rams-tanks-in-u-s-strategic-defense-agreement
Interestingly, this mentions 300 tanks but the intel' I have been hearing from multiple sources is that the plan is for 400.

 

[GTX]

Taiwan to get final batch of M1A2T Abrams tanks

https://www.armyrecognition.com/new...uction-for-taiwan-closing-108-vehicle-program

 

[GTX]

Mention of possible Romanian FMS buy:

https://www.armyrecognition.com/new...s-during-large-scale-u-s-army-combat-exercise

 

[GTX]

Taiwan’s M1A2T Abrams Tanks Adapt to Drone Warfare with Irregular Camouflage Netting to Disrupt Aerial Detection.

 

[Mr.T]

Given how normalised corruption is in US these days ,who knows who is taking all the bribes , but there is no way anyone is selling M1 Abrams engine for over 10mio$ a pop

 

[Byeman]

Given how normalised corruption is in US these days ,who knows who is taking all the bribes , but there is no way anyone is selling M1 Abrams engine for over 10mio$ a pop


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It isn't $12.5 million per engine. It is 60 engines with handling, installation and repair equipment with several years of technical support.

And corruption is not normalized in the US

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index.

 

[Mr.T]

It isn't $12.5 million per engine. It is 60 engines with handling, installation and repair equipment with several years of technical support.

And corruption is not normalized in the US

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index.

So you think engines are 2,5 mio$ and handling ,installation and repair cost 10mio , i understand Saudis are incompetent dupes ,but support and servicing is sitll a scam , they shoudl have been able to do most of it themselves or have a contractor handle it for a fraction of this cost.

El presidente and family are literally running bunch of crypto scams ,insider trade on stocks and commodities on daily basis , Iran war has been practicaly non stop pump and dump scheme, Trump made more money in single year this presidency than in his whole business career before .

https://twitter.com/x/status/2096227324568141847

View: https://x.com/BullTheoryio/status/2096227324568141847

 

[Scott Kenny]

So you think engines are 2,5 mio$ and handling ,installation and repair cost 10mio , i understand Saudis are incompetent dupes ,but support and servicing is sitll a scam , they shoudl have been able to do most of it themselves or have a contractor handle it for a fraction of this cost.

No, the Saudis do not do maintenance. If Allah wishes for the thing to work, He will make it work. Insh'Allah.

The Saudis were paying former USAF maintainers 120k a year to do the maintenance for them 25 years ago.

 

[shin_getter]

Great, so you found a use case for the MBT.

Its the NGFS meme, except armies are less of a meme. Throwing teslabots into boneyard tanks for another 40years could be adequate. Imagine, M1A1s at 2066.....

If only 25-35mm guns were extremely common and only needed some interface to a system that guides them onto aerial targets.

Not common enough when threats come in the millions.

The nation with the largest force of SHORAD force is currently in the process of getting strategically bombed into submission by low flying drones.

New vehicle fleets need to be built if another wants to maneuver against near peers.

 

[Byeman]

So you think engines are 2,5 mio$ and handling ,installation and repair cost 10mio , i understand Saudis are incompetent dupes ,but support and servicing is sitll a scam , they shoudl have been able to do most of it themselves or have a contractor handle it for a fraction of this cost.

This is to pay for a contractor to do the maintenance and support.

El presidente and family are literally running bunch of crypto scams ,insider trade on stocks and commodities on daily basis , Iran war has been practicaly non stop pump and dump scheme, Trump made more money in single year this presidency than in his whole business career before .

Perception is not reality. And reality is that rest of the world deals with a lot more corruption.

 

[Big_Zukini]

Given how normalised corruption is in US these days ,who knows who is taking all the bribes , but there is no way anyone is selling M1 Abrams engine for over 10mio$ a pop


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I am incredibly corrupt, and I can confirm it's not $10m a pop.

It's $12.5m per on average, if Saudi Arabia chooses to exercise all options offered to it, which no one ever does.
They also got approval for JDAMs at $500k a pop, which is x10 the normal rate. Obviously they're not paying x10, and the US can't actually charge them extra.
So an engine in this case could cost even in the region of $1m, or less even.

 

[swerve]

This is to pay for a contractor to do the maintenance and support.

Perception is not reality. And reality is that rest of the world deals with a lot more corruption.

Some of the rest of the world. A lot of it is less corrupt. Sweden is not Saudi Arabia, for example.

 

[Mr.T]

Ask grok about Al-Yamamah bribery model ,or any saudi defense contractor bribes.