Starting thread at the end...
https://www.twz.com/air/final-kc-10-extender-tanker-sent-into-retirement
https://www.twz.com/air/final-kc-10-extender-tanker-sent-into-retirement
They should have transferred at least some of them to the Air National Guard.Sad to see the end of the road for the KC-10 Tanker fleet, they are certainly going to be missed.
There were already aircraft operated by the Reserve but retiring them to the Guard doesn't solve any funding issues and just burdens the Guard with a type that is almost out of commercial service and has a nearly non existent maintenance supply line.They should have transferred at least some of them to the Air National Guard.
Yes. Not likely to see a new large tanker come along. The next tanker is programmed to be the KC-Y, bridging tanker, which will almost certainly be more KC-46s but the USAF wants to move along to KC-Z as part of NGAS as soon as they can.Is the KC-767 / KC-46 expected to fill in for the KC-10? Are there any plans to replace the KC-10 with the A330 MRTT / KC-45, KC-777, or even the 747 / KC-33?
plus there are no more civilian DC-10s left to share spares and alleviate the growing maintenace cost burden.
None? Hopefully they are scooped up by military contractors...I wonder how many of these retired KC-10As will be converted into Air Tankers to fight forest fires?
Seems unlikely to me. They will initially be stored as Type 1000 which is essentially the highest level of storage, so near flyaway condition although I think pretty certain none will ever fly again, and I expect they will drop quickly to a lower level of storage.I wonder how many of these retired KC-10As will be converted into Air Tankers to fight forest fires?
Current listing hereLess than 10, and that’s including the three KDC-10s at Omega, four used as Air Tankers for forest fires, and the Orbis Flying Eye hospital. Certainly nothing in normal operation in the States since Fedex retired all of there’s, and are on track to retire the MD11 fleet by 2028.
Boeing recommends grounding the MD-11 after UPS crash. As the 11 is a modernized DC-10 at the base of USAF KC-10, I wonder if there are history of similar incidents or near call of that type.
We talked about that crash in my A&P program, about why you do not deviate from manufacturer procedures when they exist.@TomS : Thanks. The related wiki page is relatively interesting with the pylon attachment point failure mode.
Picture and video:Does anybody have a picture of a KC-10 aerial refueling from another KC-10 ?
We will just have to wait and see on that. Either way, those KC-10s are gonna be operating in the African Theater from that point on.I'm going with Morocco. Thw US has been training with them on a greater scale the last couple of years, and the Moroccans are beginning to get their new F-16 aircraft. Since F-16 is not known for their great endurance, and Africa being a very large place it certainly would make sense that Morocco would want air refueling capability.
That said Egypt has been savvy allies of the west for deccades now. With China rubbing elbows with them of recent days, making sweet deals would be a move I could see from the Egytains.
Is giving anyone now retired KC-10s a sweet deal? I expect it is a deal to spend large chunks of their own money supporting/maintaining an airframe no one else operates.With China rubbing elbows with them of recent days, making sweet deals would be a move I could see from the Egytains.
The Polisario Front in Western Sahara?In the context of the War in Iran, giving KC-10 to Egypt would increase their deterrence against ballistic missiles attack from Iran. With long range tanker, Egypt would be able to retaliate and use its large fighter fleet to inflict punitive effects. Bringing Egypt in that position allows more chance for the Suez canal to remain open (the next stated target by Iran) keeping Europeans longer on the good side of the conflict and saving precious diesel stock for the US market.
On the contrary, Morocco doesn´t offer any strategic moment arm for the US. Morocco is stuck in a local conflict where strategic assets will just be wasted and opportunities irremediably lost. Unless they choose somehow to join an alliance against Iran (Houtis?).
One of them, certainly. No other possibilities.I'm going with Morocco. Thw US has been training with them on a greater scale the last couple of years, and the Moroccans are beginning to get their new F-16 aircraft. Since F-16 is not known for their great endurance, and Africa being a very large place it certainly would make sense that Morocco would want air refueling capability.
That said Egypt has been savvy allies of the west for deccades now. With China rubbing elbows with them of recent days, making sweet deals would be a move I could see from the Egytains.