Junkers Projects and Prototypes of WW II

[hesham]

Still looking for that elusive twin fuselage Junkers competitor to the Bv 138 .

That's new for me my dear Wurger,


and may be it took the "EF' designation.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


here is the Junkers EF.126 in Soviet development.

 

[blackkite]

Wow I believe you are writing a surprising book based on many original documents. How do you get these documents? ;D
German aircraft of WWⅡ are very cool and interesting. B)

 

[Stargazer]

Some COOL stuff in this thread lately! These Ju 388 J-1/J-3 blueprints are especially sweet, newsdeskdan! And blackkite, all the material on the EF-132 projects, especially with regard to their influence on later Tupolev and Myasishchev designs, is just fascinating. Thanks folks!

 

[hesham]

A big Surprise in my Files,until get the source,

Junkers had a project for VTOL fighter,rather than Focke-Wulf Triebflugel and Heinkel Wespe & Lerche,but no
more details are known.

 

[Jemiba]

Just an idea, but as VTOL, or ESTOL the EF 50 (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14756.msg147644.html#msg147644)
probably would make more sense, than as a racer ....

 

[hesham]

A big Surprise in my Files,until get the source,

Junkers had a Project for VTOL fighter,rather than Focke-Wulf Triebflugel and Heinkel Wespe & Lerche,but no more details are known.

No my dear Jemiba,

the Junkers VTOL fighter Project was from 1944/1945,and no details available about it,
but EF 50 was from 1941/1942,and this Project was not related to EF 127 ?.

 

[hesham]

Also from my files,

the Junkers intended to fit Ju-88 & Ju-188 with two addition turbojet engines,for each,installed under the
inner wings,probably looks like this BV P.203 in configuration.

http://www.luft46.com/bv/bvp203.html

 

[hesham]

A big Surprise in my Files,until get the source,

Junkers had a project for VTOL fighter,rather than Focke-Wulf Triebflugel and Heinkel Wespe & Lerche,but no more details are known.

The source;

Jet Planes of the Third Reich - The Secret Projects-volume one

 

[sienar]

First image is explaining the idea behind the 128s tails, essential fences to stop tip stall

The second image is a drawing of a junkers windtunnel model that is almost area ruling. It was said to increase the critical Mach from .75 to. 78

 

[sienar]

DVL testing carried out at the behest of Junkers.

Pretty extreme example of boundary layer control for the time.

 

[moin1900]

Hi
Here a Junkers patent
It shows the EF.101 carrier aircraft with an unknown fighter/bomber.
Patent Nr. DE911457
Title: Mutterflugzeug mit selbstständig fliegendem Tochterflugzeug
Year: 1941

https://depatisnet.dpma.de/DepatisNet/depatisnet?action=einsteiger

 

[hesham]

Hi,

the Junkes Ju-147 was a twin engined high-altitude bomber Project,no more details
are known ?.

Also I found this,Ju-268 Mistel.
http://hugojunkers.bplaced.net/junkers-ju268-mistel-v.html

 

[hesham]

In my files,until remember the source,

the Junkers Ju-93 was a real design concept,but no more details are known ?.

 

[hesham]

Still looking for that elusive twin fuselage Junkers competitor to the Bv 138 .

My dear Wurger,

maybe in reply # 21 ?.

 

[Wurger]

It looks even older than "entwürf für ein Doppel-Flugboot MIT propeller-fernantrieb", dated 1928. The RLM competition ending with the approval of the BV 138 started at 1933/1934.

 

[hesham]

OK my dear Wurger,

but the problem is that site is closed or changed the title,maybe someone has a
useful Info.

 

[sgeorges4]

junkers 435,any more information on him,it's come from the manfred griehl book on the dornier do 335,435,635:

 

[hesham]

Hi,

Mr. Hans Gropler from Junkers studied a W-wing shape ?.

Slideshow | NASM.XXXX.0408_ref552

 

[Jemiba]

Well, yes, he studied them, and as a result, he says in page seven, that W or N planforms with high sweep angles are
unsuited for high speed. So, the shown wing design certainly cannot be regarded as a project, but as an example, why
such planforms shouldn't be used.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

the Junkes Ju-147 was a twin engined high-altitude bomber Project,no more details
are known ?.

Also I found this,Ju-268 Mistel.

Junkers Ju268 (Mistel V)

hugojunkers.bplaced.net

From, Jet Planes of the Third Reich - The Secret Projects-volume two.

 

[hesham]

From, Jet Planes of the Third Reich - The Secret Projects-volume two,

a strange Info,from EF-131 to EF-140 ?.

 

[hesham]

From, Rocker Fighter,

the Junkers EF.127 in details.

 

[Vahe Demirjian]

From, Jet Planes of the Third Reich - The Secret Projects-volume two,

a strange Info,from EF-131 to EF-140 ?.

The underlined sentence seems to have been somewhat poorly worded because only the EF 132 was designed for long-range combat missions, unlike the EF 131 and EF 140, and there was a jet fighter project by Brunolf Baade designated EF 137.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Most likely this is a translation error of "to" for "and".

 

[hesham]

Strange Info,

the Junkers EF.152 was a Bomber project,lated developed as GDR 152 civil
aircraft ?!.

 

[Apophenia]

Strange Info,

the Junkers EF.152 was a Bomber project,lated developed as GDR 152 civil
aircraft ?!.

I thought that the related bomber project was designated EF.150?

 

[hesham]

Strange Info,

the Junkers EF.152 was a Bomber project,lated developed as GDR 152 civil
aircraft ?!.

I thought that the related bomber project was designated EF.150?

No dear Apophenia,it was EF.152.

 

[Zizi6785]

Strange Info,

the Junkers EF.152 was a Bomber project,lated developed as GDR 152 civil
aircraft ?!.

I thought that the related bomber project was designated EF.150?

 

[hesham]

Dear Zizi,

it was designed as Bomber project at first,then redesigned as airliner later.

 

[Zizi6785]

Dear Zizi,

it was designed as Bomber project at first,then redesigned as airliner later.

150 was bomber, 152 only airliner. 3 prototypes built.

 

[hesham]

Both of them (EF.150 & EF.152) were a bomber designs at first.

 

[Zizi6785]

Both of them (EF.150 & EF.152) were a bomber designs at first.

What is your source?

 

[hesham]

Both of them (EF.150 & EF.152) were a bomber designs at first.

What is your source?

That's the problem,I will try to remember.

 

[Zizi6785]

Both of them (EF.150 & EF.152) were a bomber designs at first.

What is your source?

That's the problem,I will try to remember.

Let's stay with the known sources until then, and let the 152 be an airliner.

 

[hesham]

Both of them (EF.150 & EF.152) were a bomber designs at first.

What is your source?

That's the problem,I will try to remember.

Let's stay with the known sources until then, and let the 152 be an airliner.

I am sure about it,just wait.

What was this Project ?.

Junkers Project EF

Draft of an attack aircraft with a BMW 801. Planned further development of the Ju 187. As a single-seater, similar in concept to early versions of the Ilyushin Il-2.

 

[Zizi6785]

Both of them (EF.150 & EF.152) were a bomber designs at first.

What is your source?

That's the problem,I will try to remember.

Let's stay with the known sources until then, and let the 152 be an airliner.

I am sure about it,just wait.

What was this Project ?.

Junkers Project EF

Draft of an attack aircraft with a BMW 801. Planned further development of the Ju 187. As a single-seater, similar in concept to early versions of the Ilyushin Il-2.

Not a Junkers project!
Baade 152 or Dresden 152 or VL-DDR 152 or simply 152.
What's the Il-2 doing here?
Total chaos!

 

[hesham]

Not a Junkers project!
Baade 152 or Dresden 152 or VL-DDR 152 or simply 152.
What's the Il-2 doing here?
Total chaos!

That's not true,it was called at first EF.152.

For unknown project,they described it as a looks like early version of Ilyusin Il-2,read the text !.

 

[Zizi6785]

Not a Junkers project!
Baade 152 or Dresden 152 or VL-DDR 152 or simply 152.
What's the Il-2 doing here?
Total chaos!

That's not true,it was called at first EF.152.

For unknown project,they described it as a looks like early version of Ilyusin Il-2,read the text !.

I will not argue further, there is no point.

 

[Hood]

That's not true,it was called at first EF.152.

For unknown project,they described it as a looks like early version of Ilyusin Il-2,read the text !.

The EF132 was the last official Dessau "Junkers" design. Anything post that is OKB-1.

What's the source on the single-engine EF?
Sounds very much like the EF82 but with the engine misidentified (BMW801 instead of the correct Jumo 214).