Hawker designation list

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The Advanced Projects Group grew out of HSA's bid for Concorde, then studied the possibilities for what might be flying twenty years down the road. Think their drawings were numbered APD-10xx (AP Drawing), but the projects were normally referred to as P.10xx. This was a completely separated series from the main Hawker numbering system. Project work tailed off from about 1971, after the death of Hugh Francis, and the Group morphed into the HQ Research Dept, overseeing all HSA research work.
 

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My dear Ursrius,

the source for SP later series is the report ; BEYOND THE HARRIER - KINGSTON
V/STOL PROJECTS 1957-1988

and for APG.1000 & APG.1003;

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2435.msg238681.html#msg238681
 

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for APG.1000 & APG.1003;

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2435.msg238681.html#msg238681
Thanks Hesham for that link. The APD/APG question is thoroughly covered in that series of posts.

the source for SP later series is the report ; BEYOND THE HARRIER - KINGSTON
V/STOL PROJECTS 1957-1988
Hesham, thanks for reminding me about this SAE document. I do have it but had quite forgotten.
 

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Re: Hawker P.xxxx Project List

Harrier said:
The P.1210, 1211 and 1215 were Brough projects, IIRC. They will also have Brough numbers in the P.160 range - I think P.1215 was also the P.163.

I will PM you the list of article illustrations.
Looking at Buttler's BSP-Fighters, it would appear that the use of two type numbers between Kingston and Brough for the same project only occurred in the Hawker Siddeley days. Once it became British Aerospace, this practice appears to have stopped. The P.163 and P.1215 were very different looking aircraft
 

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hesham said:
Hi,

the main Hawker & Hawker Siddeley series from 1940 to 1978 were;

- P.1000 from 1940,raised up to P.1163,after that the prefix changed into HS,from HS.1170 up
to HS.1207

- P.122 after absorbing Blackburn in 1960,continued to P.161

- SP.63 also after purchased Blackburn in 1960,went on up to SP.90 (maybe)

- HS.131 up to HS.149,after taken over De Havilland in 1960,called Hatfield division

- HS.800 blew up to HS.837,after acquired Avro to became Manchester subsidiary

- HSA,APD & APG,all were the same,started from HSA.1000 and last known HSA.1023
For the last series,there was also the designation numbered 1034.
 
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