Hamel Heavy Civil Flying Boat Projects

[hesham]

Hi,


the French designer,G. R. Hamel was aviator and pilot,and he designed some
heavy civil flying boat projects,his activities started from 1935 up to 1945,he
created a 100,300,400 & 500 ton Projects.


Here is his 100 ton proposal,it was powered by eight engines,in twin fuselage
configuration.


Aerophile magazine

 

[hesham]

Hi,


also he proposed a 400 ton high wing huge commercial flying boat Project,looks like in its capacity to the Dornier Do X.


Aerophile magazine

 

[hesham]

By the way,

the Project of 300t had a 110m span,330 ton weight and 520 km/h estimated speed.

 

[hesham]

From TU 183 & 230,

Mr. Goerges R. Hamel founded a C.L.E.N.A. (Centre Lutécien d'Études Nautiques et Aéronautiques) or Paris Center for Nautical and Aeronautical Studies in 1942,he designed two Types Monoplanes as a tourist airplanes,and one called S20,as Amphibian twin engined airplane.

Also C.L.E.N.A. studied SCAM C.50 tourist airplane.

 

[Aubi]

BTW Lutecia is Roman name for paris.

 

[hesham]

Also C.L.E.N.A. studied SCAM C.50 tourist airplane

An artist drawing.

 

[gabrielorosco]

Hi,


the French designer,G. R. Hamel was aviator and pilot,and he designed some
heavy civil flying boat projects,his activities started from 1935 up to 1945,he
created a 100,300,400 & 500 ton Projects.


Here is his 100 ton proposal,it was powered by eight engines,in twin fuselage
configuration.


Aerophile magazine

Me dear friend Hesham,

Do we have pictures of the 300 and 500 ton design?

 

[avion ancien]

Even allowing for the fact that the above vignette is a drawing, I have to say that the CLENA/SCAM C.50 looks remarkably similar to the Roussel 10 of 1938 but with a modified fin and rudder.

 

[Apophenia]

It does indeed. As a 4-seater, the C.50 would likely be slightly larger (does anyone have dimensions for the Roussel 10?). The tricycle C.50 would also have had almost three times as much power as the biplace Roussel.

 

[avion ancien]

Unfortunately I've found no dimensions given for the Roussel 10 in the contemporary press, just performance figures and the mention that it is powered by a 60cv Train engine.

 

[Schneiderman]

Georges Hamel patent FR811040 1937

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Schneiderman,

and I think that's was a 500 ton Project ?.

 

[Schneiderman]

Maybe. The patent is full of construction detail but does not mention dimensions or weight - just tonnage élevé

 

[juanT]

Hi
from: https://www.ebay.fr/itm/30392747799...55-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050

 

[hesham]

Great find Juan,

and I think that,it was a 500 ton Project.

 

[Grey Havoc]

I have just come across what appears to be a passing reference to Hamel that would seem to suggest that he was based in Britain in 1940, possibly one of those engineers, scientists, and other specialists seconded by the (pre-Battle of France) French government to various British government bodies and commercial concerns.

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[Aurum]

It should have steamturbine engines indeed

 

[Schneiderman]

Great find Juan,

and I think that,it was a 500 ton Project.

329950 kg = 325 tons

 

[hesham]

It should have steamturbine engines indeed

May that's right Aurum.

And thanks to you my dear Ralph.