DARPA Long Range Anti-ship Missile (LRASM)

[Ainen]

I would fully expect every warship to be constantly operating with high power horizon search radars live and radiating, looking for AShMs.

Constantly. Normal sailing operations, not just battlestations.

I am not sure it's going to be practical on a warship, even a Japanese ASEV.
For both technical and tactical reasons... warship is not a purpose made (peacetime) early warning radar.

 

[quellish]

Never previously confirmed. JAASM-ER is a relatively new addition as well.

Did anyone actually ask? Like, I don’t know, ask for records of weapons certifications for the platform from the correct office?

 

[Josh_TN]

Did anyone actually ask? Like, I don’t know, ask for records of weapons certifications for the platform from the correct office?

Feel free to share whatever you have.

 

[EmoBirb]

One doesn't even have to go to the lengths quellish mentioned. It should have been assumed that the premier long range bomber of the USAF is able to carry a derivative of the premier ALCM used by the AF and Navy. If one looks at launch platforms for the AGM-158 and the AGM-158C, the overlap is overwhelming.

That's why I said it shouldn't be a surprise really. And the B-21 will also launch LRASM and future anti-ship weapons, that's

 

[quellish]

One doesn't even have to go to the lengths quellish mentioned. It should have been assumed that the premier long range bomber of the USAF is able to carry a derivative of the premier ALCM used by the AF and Navy. If one looks at launch platforms for the AGM-158 and the AGM-158C, the overlap is overwhelming.

That's why I said it shouldn't be a surprise really. And the B-21 will also launch LRASM and future anti-ship weapons, that's

Asking questions of your government shouldn’t be seen as “going to lengths”.

 

[eagle]

It's not like twz was the only outlet reporting the B-2 LRASM reveal.
For example: https://theaviationist.com/2026/06/30/b-2-spirit-agm-158c-lrasm-sinkex/
or an official source: https://www.airandspaceforces.com/b-2-fires-ship-killing-cruise-missile-lrasm/

 

[EmoBirb]

Asking questions of your government shouldn’t be seen as “going to lengths”.

I think you and me both know that for most going through the process and asking at the right place, waiting for a response, is already a great undertaking. If it wasn't you wouldn't be in the minority that regularly does this. I find your mindset commendable though.

 

[quellish]

It's not like twz was the only outlet reporting the B-2 LRASM reveal.
For example: https://theaviationist.com/2026/06/30/b-2-spirit-agm-158c-lrasm-sinkex/
or an official source: https://www.airandspaceforces.com/b-2-fires-ship-killing-cruise-missile-lrasm/

No, "Air And Space Forces Magazine" is not an official source, which the content of their article makes clear. This is the official source, the release from DoD :

https://www.pacaf.af.mil/News/Artic...conduct-b-2-lrasm-live-fire-sinking-exercise/

TWZ, Aviationist, etc. were all (as usual) circular reporting, repeating each other.

 

[quellish]

I think you and me both know that for most going through the process and asking at the right place, waiting for a response, is already a great undertaking. If it wasn't you wouldn't be in the minority that regularly does this. I find your mindset commendable though.

No, in most cases ( and with the relevant office for this case in particular) it can be just sending an email or filling out a form.

I would like to think that isn’t “too hard” or “great lengths” for the average person.

 

[eagle]

No, "Air And Space Forces Magazine" is not an official source, which the content of their article makes clear. This is the official source, the release from DoD :

https://www.pacaf.af.mil/News/Artic...conduct-b-2-lrasm-live-fire-sinking-exercise/

TWZ, Aviationist, etc. were all (as usual) circular reporting, repeating each other.

OK maybe not, but neither pacaf.af.mil, nor anyone else reported about this before this week. So I guess everyone (incl. paid services btw.) failed to do their homework. ‍

 

[quellish]

OK maybe not, but neither pacaf.af.mil, nor anyone else reported about this before this week. So I guess everyone (incl. paid services btw.) failed to do their homework. ‍

They would rather have other people do the work, and they benefit from it. There seems to be a lot of that going around.

 

[Air Superior]

Did anyone actually ask? Like, I don’t know, ask for records of weapons certifications for the platform from the correct office?

The carry capability was classified before the reveal a few days ago

 

[quellish]

The carry capability was classified before the reveal a few days ago

It was definitely not classified.

 

[Air Superior]

It was definitely not classified.

It absolutely was.

 

[quellish]

It absolutely was.

It absolutely was not. The DoD aircraft stores certification process is well defined. Stores certification is largely a safety issue and the certification itself is not subject to classification unless the existence of the store or aircraft itself is subject to classification. LRASM and the B-2 are both disclosed programs.

For random stores certifications be subject to classification or other onerous access restrictions would create safety issues.

Having seen non-classified records that reference LRASM testing and certification on global strike platforms including the B-2, I can assure you that the "carry capability" was not "classified".

If you claim the stores certification was "classified" and was declassified so that PACAF could put it in a press release for an exercise, which office was the OCA for the declassification? The B-2 SPO? The LRASM SPO?

 

[Scott Kenny]

It absolutely was.

My dude, there is a very large difference between "not normally disclosed" and "classified".

It's the difference between "we don't talk about that in polite company" and "we will go to jail for talking about it"

 

[NMaude]

My dude, there is a very large difference between "not normally disclosed" and "classified".

And in the "Classified" category there's "Secret", "Top Secret", "TS:SCI" and above.

 

[Air Superior]

My dude, there is a very large difference between "not normally disclosed" and "classified".

It's the difference between "we don't talk about that in polite company" and "we will go to jail for talking about it"

I'm very well aware. I've spent 5 years in classified spaces. Have you?

 

[Air Superior]

It absolutely was not. The DoD aircraft stores certification process is well defined. Stores certification is largely a safety issue and the certification itself is not subject to classification unless the existence of the store or aircraft itself is subject to classification. LRASM and the B-2 are both disclosed programs.

For random stores certifications be subject to classification or other onerous access restrictions would create safety issues.

Having seen non-classified records that reference LRASM testing and certification on global strike platforms including the B-2, I can assure you that the "carry capability" was not "classified".

If you claim the stores certification was "classified" and was declassified so that PACAF could put it in a press release for an exercise, which office was the OCA for the declassification? The B-2 SPO? The LRASM SPO?

Considering you've never step foot inside of a classified space, worked on a classified program, and only read headlines, I am telling you this carry capability was classified.

You don't have to believe me as is your right, but stating objectively that it wasn't classified as some sort of 'gotcha' is just wrong. You do not know. You do not have experience in working in these spaces and programs. You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Josh_TN]

I do not have enough popcorn for this…

 

[TomS]

Indeed. Quellish can rub folks the wrong way sometimes, but "reading headlines" is absolutely not their MO. I'd guess they have filed more FOIA requests than the rest of the readership here combined. (Myself very much included. I'm an above-average googler, but I won't claim more than that outside a very few topics.)

 

[Sferrin]

I'm very well aware. I've spent 5 years in classified spaces. Have you?

And you have specific knowledge of LRASM & B-2 from your tiny corner of the big picture?

 

[Josh_TN]

I find him unnecessarily caustic, but he will bring the receipts.

 

[Scott Kenny]

I'm very well aware. I've spent 5 years in classified spaces. Have you?

6 years USN, on missile subs.

 

[yeetmahboi]

I find him unnecessarily caustic, but he will bring the receipts.

Then TWZ will steal it

 

[quellish]

Considering you've never step foot inside of a classified space, worked on a classified program, and only read headlines, I am telling you this carry capability was classified.

You don't have to believe me as is your right, but stating objectively that it wasn't classified as some sort of 'gotcha' is just wrong. You do not know. You do not have experience in working in these spaces and programs. You have no idea what you're talking about.

These are your assumptions, not facts.

 

[Forest Green]

LRASM Clears Integration Milestone for Use on the B-1B​

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/lrasm-clears-integration-milestone-for-use-on-the-b-1b/

The June 2 “event zero” validation test at Dyess Air Force Base, Texas, connects the AGM-158C LRASM to the Lancer, testing the missile’s ability to communicate with the bomber. For this test, engineers used a specially fabricated cable rather than fully loading the weapon onto the aircraft, according to an Air Force release.

The B-1 test came within weeks of a B-2 firing a LRASM during exercise Valiant Shield 26 near the Marianas Islands, the first time the service publicly acknowledged LRASM firing by a B-2.

 

[Forest Green]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2075936505659342991

View: https://x.com/navalnewscom/status/2075936505659342991?s=20

 

[lfx160219]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2081996467385024837

View: https://x.com/lfx160219/status/2081996467385024837

 

[Josh_TN]

I wonder which of the holes in Peleliu the LRASM was. The GARC video showed three big blast holes just above the waterline, which were presumably were the LRASM, Harpoon, and NSM shots. The first one looked the most impressive with what looked like an entire frame of hull plate blown open.

 

[GTX]

Australia Declares U.S. Long-Range JASSM-ER and LRASM Missiles Operational on FA-18F Fighter Jets.

 

[GTX]

Australia Pushes P-8A Poseidon Beyond Maritime Patrol With AGM-158C Long-Range Anti-Ship Strike Capability​