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Alcides also gave us more Clyde info in his reply #25 ...
 

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From Popular Mechanics;


http://books.google.com.eg/books?id=Jd8DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA39&dq=popular+mechanics+flying-wing&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Gf_-U4fhHs7oaOzngJgI&ved=0CDwQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=popular%20mechanics%20flying-wing&f=true
 

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Writing on the above pic. refers to Canadian Car & Foundry I see...
 

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lark said:
Writing on the above pic. refers to Canadian Car & Foundry I see...

Yes my dear Lark,that's right,


and here is anther Mystery Burnelli aircraft Model,and I don't know if it was real design
or not ?.


http://mysteriousbill.weebly.com/bills-gaming-blog/burnellis-flying-wings
 

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Thank you my dear Alcides.
 

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From l'Aeronautique 1930,


here is a float designed by Burnelli,but what was this aircraft which fitted with ?.
 

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hesham said:
here is a float designed by Burnelli,but what was this aircraft which fitted with ?.
Good question... Registration #398N is supposed to have been carried by a Rhon Ranger glider (c/n G-483) but this obviously ISN'T it.
My first impression was that it might be an Aeromarine-Klemm... Interestingly, #396N was an Aeromarine AKL-26B (c/n 3-71), while #399N was an Aeromarine B... whatever that was!
Adding to the mystery, the registration that came immediately before that (#397N) was given to another Burnelli, a UB-20 (c/n 5)...
 

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Thank you my dear Skyblazer.
 

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Here's a Burnelli type I previously didn't know, the X-3 "Guggenheim" prototype (source: Jahrbuch der Luftfahrt 1931-32):
 

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Hehsam fantastic find!!! Any clue about the kind of plane is? Looks like a passanger transport plane.
 

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Alcides said:
Hehsam fantastic find!!! Any clue about the kind of plane is? Looks like a passanger transport plane.

Thank you my dear Alcides,


but how we can't ID it ?.
 

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And;

http://www.noahc.org/uploads/documents/Newsletters/nlv2n2.pdf
http://www.noahc.org/uploads/documents/newsletters/nlv7n1.pdf
 

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Amazing Project my dear Tailspin,many great thanks.
 

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Gentlemen, both thanks for your
# 56 and # 57 contributions..
The Burnelli file is still alive...!
 

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A big surprise;

I get this report about Burnelli,it contains the Projects; B-2000 as a six engined military/civil
transport and B-2000B bomber,also V-1000 conventional transport aircraft and B-1000 four
engined bomber,also the X-BAB-3 three seat high-speed light bomber.



http://www.aircrash.org/burnelli/pdf/td003.pdf
http://www.aircrash.org/burnelli/xbab3.htm
 

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Tailspin Turtle said:
Proposed against USN OS-117, which was won by Grumman with what became the S2F.
I had no idea Burnelli had continued to submit military designs into the 1950s. Amazing project, for which I can't thank you enough.
 

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hesham said:
A big surprise;

I get this report about Burnelli,it contains the Projects; B-2000 as a six engined military/civil
transport and B-2000B bomber,also V-1000 conventional transport aircraft and B-1000 four
engined bomber,also the X-BAB-3 three seat high-speed light bomber.
A big surprise indeed, thanks a lot for sharing. I'd been on this site a long time ago, but didn't realize it was still being updated with new material. Although most of these projects were known, we never had so much detail at our disposal. Also, the V-1000 is totally new to me.
 

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Many thanks to you my dears Skyblazer and XP67_Moonbat,

and I have anther report for Burnelli,but I can't remember where it's now ?.
 

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hesham said:
I get this report about Burnelli,it contains the Projects; B-2000 as a six engined military/civil
transport and B-2000B bomber,also V-1000 conventional transport aircraft and B-1000 four
engined bomber,also the X-BAB-3 three seat high-speed light bomber.

http://www.aircrash.org/burnelli/pdf/td003.pdf
http://www.aircrash.org/burnelli/xbab3.htm
Can anyone make a better and large copy of B-2000B to a designer,want that ?,and thanks .
 

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hesham said:
A big surprise;

I get this report about Burnelli,it contains the Projects; B-2000 as a six engined military/civil
transport and B-2000B bomber,also V-1000 conventional transport aircraft and B-1000 four
engined bomber,also the X-BAB-3 three seat high-speed light bomber.
Wow… much greatness. That V-1000 is terribly mysterious. Looks like a Vickers design! Vickers V-1000… why does that sound familiar? ;)
 

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Apteryx said:
Wow… much greatness. That V-1000 is terribly mysterious. Looks like a Vickers design! Vickers V-1000… why does that sound familiar? ;)
Hi Apteryx,

the Burnelli V-1000 was mention in that site;

http://www.aircrash.org/burnelli/td003.htm
 

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hesham said:
Hi Apteryx,

the Burnelli V-1000 was mention in that site;

http://www.aircrash.org/burnelli/td003.htm
So the V-1000 is just a straw-man airplane? I'm crestfallen. :'(
 

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hesham said:
never saw like this design for Burnelli,Flugsport 1936
Hi,

and artist drawing to it,but the design is still unknown for me ?.

Model Airplane News 1936 05
 

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Skyblazer said:
Thanks folks. This must have been an early configuration for what became the OA-1 Clyde Clipper. What kept me from thinking about the Clyde Clipper was the fact that the design lacked the characteristic canted tail fins that the OA-1 had. Also the designation "BR Mark II" was different.

I'm attaching a quick comparison of the BR Mark II profile, the cutaway profile the patent artwork, and the profile of the actual OA-1 Clyde Clipper as it was built. This will show the differences as well as the many similarities.
I suspect that the middle-image from Skyblazer's comparison is actually of the Clyde Comet.

The associated top view shows that the trailing edge of the thick section center-wing is equal in span to the leading edge. However, in the other Clipper/OA-1 drawings I've found the leading edge is slightly wider span than the trailing edge.

This seems to be support by the fact that it is heavily armed.
 

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hesham said:
What was this ?.
That looks like a model of a variant of the Burnelli CBY-3 Loadmaster.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnelli_CBY-3
 

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Thank you Boxman,

but I think not.
 

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Perhaps searching would be easier, if the source would be given ? ::)
 

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Jemiba said:
Perhaps searching would be easier, if the source would be given ? ::)
Sorry my dear Jemiba,

I don't remember the source,it was from my old collection,I tried to figure about it on
Internet again,but no way
 

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Ok, it's a pity.
Couldn't find it via reverse picture search, too, but the big two bladed props
and the big wheels make me think of a rubber band powered model ...
 

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Jemiba said:
Ok, it's a pity.
Couldn't find it via reverse picture search, too, but the big two bladed props
and the big wheels make me think of a rubber band powered model ...
Yes my dear Jemiba,

and maybe it was belonged to postwar,just my suggesting ?.
 
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