Boeing Model Designations

Hi All!



Thank you very much aim9xray!
Very interesting details of Boeing own sponsored proposals and competitive proposals.




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Stargazer,


You say that you have information all numbers from 1 to 475.
There are from 1 to 385, and please show us from 386 to 475.


Thanks in advance!
 
nugo said:
You say that you have information all numbers from 1 to 475.
There are from 1 to 385, and please show us from 386 to 475.
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I've been working for several years on a Boeing index, and all the new information means I've been working a LOT more on it.

I'm planning to share it here when it's completed and proof-read... ;)
 
OK Stargazer,


and I hope from our mercy God to get us only early aircraft list for;


Bell D series
Curtiss P series
Douglas Models
Hughes Models
Republic AP series
Ryan Models
Piasecki-Vertol PD,PH & V series
Vought VE & V series


Just wish.
 
Here's Boeing Models 378 to 475 (minus 430 and 438 — not used), and 479-486, 490, 495, 497, 498.

Enjoy!
 

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Excellent my dear Stargazer,


thank you very much.
 
Hi All!
Thank you very much my friend Stargazer!
Great job. Now unknown 12 proposals: Model 476, 477, 478, 487, 488, 489, 491, 492, 493, 494, 496 and 499.
Maybe including proposals will: proposal of the competition for MX-955 (T-28)---Model 47?, competitor of the XV-1, 2, 3--- Model 49?.
 
Excellent work Stéphane. Many thanks.
 
Does anyone know if there is a model 1600 series designation from approximately 1988? If so, it would explain the joined-wing Boeing EX Surveillance Concept of 1993.
 
asiscan said:
Does anyone know if there is a model 1600 series designation from approximately 1988? If so, it would explain the joined-wing Boeing EX Surveillance Concept of 1993.
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I do not know of any numbers in the 1600+ range but these surely must have existed.
It's very difficult to understand how Boeing Model Numbers work beyond #1000, but one thing for sure is that they are not allocated chronologically. For instance, the 1991 HSCT studies were given Model Number "1080", while the 1993 studies seem to have received the number "1873". So if you've seen a 1600+ designation for the EX program, it could be genuine... Do you have a source? A reference?
 
Sorry no source, only speculation based purely on the code painted on the official Boeing EX scale model - 160137, assuming Model 1601 dash 37. It's not uncommon for a company artist or model maker to include a genuine reference to the aircraft by mistake example: Northrop N336-12 VATOL in 1978 illustration . In regards to Boeing number system it would be up to the 1600's by 1990, and there are many examples of non sequential codes such as wide bodied transports in the 1000 series from 1978 and different aircraft design programs clustered in a non-common series example: Model 985 microfighter series of 1973 that also later included much larger tactical fighter design series from 1982.
 
Any hints of possible model numbers for

- Bird of Prey (and a McDD model number for the origin of this aircraft)
- T-X contender (together with Saab)

?
 
pometablava said:
From "American Secret Projects: Bombers" Page 12

The starting point for Boeing's jet bomber studies was the Model 413 from the autumn of 1943, which would have been a response to the initial request for studies made in June of that year
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That's the B-47 oldest ancestor...anybody has a picture of this design?

Thanks in advance,

Antonio
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Habermehl & Hopkins' new book on B-47 shows a simple three-view of Model 413 - see page 11 top.
 
Just found old photocopy from old book about Boeing company (printed pror the 2000, couldn't remember any other details about edition).
Here is the Boeing's designation list from the book - see attachement.

Some new designations, that I didn't found in this thread:
883 - Fresh One Hydrofoil for US Navy
928 - PGH-2 Hydrofoil for US Navy
939 - Lunar Orbiter for NASA
946 - Burner II for USAF
 

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Silencer1 said:
Just found old photocopy from old book about Boeing company (printed pror the 2000, couldn't remember any other details about edition).

Some new designations, that I didn't found in this thread:
883 - Fresh One Hydrofoil for US Navy
928 PGH-2 Hydrofoil for US Navy
939 Lunar Orbiter for NASA
946 Burner II for USAF
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What was it my dear Silencer.
 
Hello, hesham!

What was it my dear Silencer.
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The designations of Boeing-built items, that previously didn't listed in this thread.
Actually, it could be found in another topics of this forum, for example, in Naval section.
 
In the book American Secret Projects 2: US Airlifters 1941 to 1961, the Boeing Model 493 is a turboprop-powered derivative of the Boeing 367. It came in two versions, the 165-ft span Model 493-3-2 and the 182-ft span Model 493-8. The Model 493-3-2 was thought to have been designated C-127 but this is not borne out by USAF records, as the C-127 designation was used for the YC-124B.
 
Stargazer2006 and jzichek said:
Boeing Model 461 - US Navy - four turboprop engine patrol/patrol bomber landplane study
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Orionblamblam said:
Boeing Model 461: Second in the series on the development of the B-52… and early postwar turboprop heavy bomber
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Scott Lowther aka Orionblamblam also mentions this artist's version of a six-engined Boeing Model 461 on page 114 in his book "Origins and Evolution. Boeing B-47 Stratojet and B-52 Stratofortress".
Source:
https://thejivebombers.com/scan0056/
 

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Manuel Davidoff said:
Is there more detailed information about it somewhere?
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In answer to your question, I attach a GA Drawing of the Model 299J taken from the Putnam's Boeing book. The Model 299J was a study to evaluate the existing B-17, if it was redesigned to take a high mounted wing and a tricycle undercarriage, in the same manner as the Consolidated Model 30, later to be named the B-24 Liberator. Power was to come from four 1,400hp P&W R-2180 radial engines. Span was 104 feet, length was 79 feet and the gross weight was 41,819lbs.
 

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