Bartini Postwar Projects

[flateric]

Bartini WIG aircraft carrier

 

[Antonio]

That is absolute great find. Many thanks Flateric!

Never imagined that WiG design airwing was composed with Su-27 fighters

 

[flateric]

It may be post-Bartini Beriev OKB works, follow-on to Bartini's 2500 t WIG aircraft carrier (see attached photos posted by Boxkite and Hesham previously), but the breed is obvious.

 

[mekon]

Hello All

This is my first post here - first time caller, long time listener etc.

Just thought I would post a slightly clearer colour version of one of the WIG images posted previously. Apologies if this has already been posted - I couldn't see it anywhere else..

(found on http://www.beriev.com/eng/Pr_rel_e/pr_110e.html)

cheers

Mekon

 

[flateric]

Little bit more on -107 and -117

 

[flateric]

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[Rickshaw]

I always love those interior drawings where everyone has a barcalounger. How come I never get on those flights?

Kim M :-[

One suspects that while the dream in the fUSSR may have been:

The reality was more likely to have been:

 

[Orionblamblam]

One suspects that while the dream in the fUSSR may have been:
The reality was more likely to have been:

And then there's Airbus...

The dream:

And the forthcoming reality:

 

[robunos]

Chuffin' eck!, seven hours plus transatlantic in economy was bad enough, but _standing up_!!

never mind, we'll be able to tell our grandchildren, 'when i was your age, airliners had seats in 'em, so you could _sit down_!' LOL, ;D

cheers,
Robin.

 

[moin1900]

Hi everybody

Maybe someone knows a drawing or picture of the Bartini AL-40 ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Ludvigovich_Bartini
Thanks a lot for help

 

[ucon]

Bartini Samolet "M" - world long-range record aircraft.

 

[Antonio]

Bartini Samolet "M" - world long-range record aircraft

Thanks Ucon
Do you know the design date?

Antonio

 

[Triton]

Model and three-view line drawings of Project "T" designed by Robert Bartini circa 1960.

Source: http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/bartini/t/index.htm

EDIT: Previously incorrectly identified as a Beriev project.

 

[Triton]

Model of ekranoplan aircraft carrier designed by Robert Bartini circa 1965.

Source: http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/bartini/2500/index.htm

EDIT: Previously incorrectly identified as a Beriev project.

 

[Triton]

Models of Bartini Project "T" from USSR-Russian Aviation and Space Collectibles.

Source: http://www.se-technology.com

EDIT: Previously incorrectly identified as a Beriev project.

 

[igor-mich]

Mr Triton Projects Bartini never had the notation "Be", do not make misinformation. If you are not sure better specify the forum. Bartini has never worked in the Beriev Design Bureau. Just plane VVA-14 was based on the experimental plant because the patched CB Bartini Bartini did not have a pilot plant.

 

[igor-mich]

The correct name of the LL-600 "Flying Boat" (incorrectly MP-600 and IL-600)

 

[redstar72]

From Yakubovich book (see http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,396.msg21280.html#msg21280):

T-117 and F-57.

F-57 wasn't mentioned here before. It was small brother of the mighty A-57 - a tactical (frontline) bomber designed in the end of 1950s.
Technical data (calculated):
Wing span - 12.9 m
Length - 25.0 m
Takeoff weight - 25 tons (28 tons overloaded)
Crew - 1
Powerplant - two Klimov VK-13 turbojets, each 10 000 kG thrust
Maximum speed - 3000 km/h
Cruise speed - 2500 km/h
Service ceiling - 22 to 25 km
Flight range - 2800 to 3100 km (normal weight), 3800 to 4100 km (overload)
Takeoff run - 900 m
Bomb load - 1500 kg

I attach small pictures to avoid piracy .

 

[Triton]

Model of Bartini Stal-7.

Source: http://vipzone.ws/video/121081-genij-iz-sharashki-aviakonstruktor-bartini.html

DANGER: Link appears to automatically install malware and pop-ups for pornography websites.

 

[Triton]

Artist's impression of Kor.SVVP-70.

As a VTOL aircraft, Kor.SVVP-70 does not require large flight desks and/or special takeoff/landing facilities. Basic helicopter desk is perfectly sufficient, while speed and range far exceed helicopter capabilities.

Source: http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/korsvvp-70.html

 

[Triton]

Artist's impression and three-view drawing of A-57 strategic bomber. Bottom image is R-57 per ucon. Thank you ucon.

Source: http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/bartini/a/57/a57.htm

 

[ucon]

Hi all!
Here is A-57 cutaway drawings

 

[Triton]

Thank you Mr. ucon! ;D

 

[ucon]

Dear Triton!
In your last post on top pic is not A-57, it is R-57

 

[ucon]

In technical description this craft called "Ekranowoz". Very strange.
It is monorail by Bartini

 

[XP67_Moonbat]

Spasiba tovrisch!

 

[Triton]

Model of "Ekranowoz" monorail designed by Robert Bartini.

Sources:
http://www.izmerov.narod.ru/monor/monor3.html
http://strangernn.livejournal.com/148884.html

 

[airman]

Great Bartini projects !
On "Aerei della Storia" of this month there are history of engineer Bartini and their works !

 

[ucon]

Dear Airman!
May I ask you to send to me a copy of this article?
Thanks a lot in advance.

 

[Silencer1]

Hi!

On "Aerei della Storia" of this month there are history of engineer Bartini and their works !

It's quite interesting to knew an Italian view on Bartinis's life!
Overseas origins of Robeto Bartini, in my humble opinion, was one of the causes of it's 'special" position among other Soviet aircraft designers - with all good and bad sides of it.

Could you share some details of the article with me as well?
Thanks in advance!

 

[airman]

Dear Airman!
May I ask you to send to me a copy of this article?
Thanks a lot in advance.

I am on vacation : i haven't scanner on vacation, in article of "aerei della storia" seems have not updates in confronting of this thread !

 

[amsci99]

Hi Airman,
Are we talking about issue no.73 or could it be the next issue no.74?

Dear Airman!
May I ask you to send to me a copy of this article?
Thanks a lot in advance.

I am on vacation : i haven't scanner on vacation, in article of "aerei della storia" seems have not updates in confronting of this thread !

 

[hesham]

Hi,

anther artist drawing to Bartini T-117 project.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

here is anther site talks about the Bartini T-203,and
the project was a supersonic aircraft with ogival wing,
and I don't know what is that mean, can we say ogee
wing.

Also I told you before about the T-500,it was a heavy
transport WIG aircraft.

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8,_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%82_%D0%9B%D1%8E%D0%B4%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=ar&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25D0%2591%25D0%25B0%25D1%2580%25D1%2582%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B8,_%25D0%25A0%25D0%25BE%25D0%25B1%25D0%25B5%25D1%2580%25D1%2582_%25D0%259B%25D1%258E%25D0%25B4%25D0%25B2%25D0%25B8%25D0%25B3%25D0%25BE%25D0%25B2%25D0%25B8%25D1%2587

 

[borovik]

from m-n 'Aviatsiya i Vremya'

 

[hesham]

Hi,

the T-203 was variable sweep wing aircraft project,and I don't
sure about those Bartini projects,R-100,T-301,T-503 and A58.

Thank you my dear Borovik very much,

and do you hear about those projects ?.

 

[borovik]

Hi,

the T-203 was variable sweep wing aircraft project,and I don't
sure about those Bartini projects,R-100,T-301,T-503 and A58.

and do you hear about those projects ?.

Only A-58
Project 1958 Bomber (Flying Boat), designed for nuclear strikes within the continent. Further development of the A-57.
engine : 4 NK-6
span : 25,650m
lenght : 46,20m
max speed :2000km/h
range . 6000km
ceiling. 18.000m
crew: 2-3
"Domestic bombers (1945-2000). Part 2 "/ S.Ganin, A.Karpenko, V. Kolnogorov, "Bastion", 2001 /

 

[ucon]

Unknown Bartini projects

Hi all.
There are different topics devoted to Bartini's projects. More or less they are known to aviation enthusiasts.
Here is M-RD by Bartini, not yet described in aviation magazines and books.
Some data.
Round the world (via both Poles) record aircraft. 1945-1947 project.
Wing span - 31 m, L=16,5, TOW=33640 kg, engines=2xM-31 diesel, distance=43 600 km, cruising speed=496 km/h

 

[Retrofit]

Re: Unknown Bartini projects

Great! Thank you ucon!
The only detail of this project so far was a small photo of the model.
Tremendous attemp for this immediate post-war period!

Source: Avico Press

 

[ucon]

Re: Unknown Bartini projects

Hi, Retrofit)
This photo circulates from my archiev, so if you need big sized just let me know.
Best regards