Argentinian Unbuilt Projects

[hesham]

From Air International 1983

 

[hesham]

From JAWA 1967-1968,

here's an early concept for IA-58,as a twin boom design,and
they called it A-X.2.

 

[hesham]

From JAWA 1960-1961

 

[hesham]

Hi,

what was Cicare CH-2000 & CH-2002 ?,

https://www.helis.com/timeline/cicare2.php

 

[hesham]

Old Info on the Net,

may from my dear Stingray's site,that FMA designed a Helicopter !,
is that right ?.

 

[Erdosain]

Old Info on the Net,

may from my dear Stingray's site,that FMA designed a Helicopter !,
is that right ?.

In the 1960s, there was an attempt to produce a Cicare helicopter at FMA, under the government of civilian president Arturo Frondizi, but the military coup ended that project.

In the late 1980s, FMA partnered with Techint and Agusta to produce the Agusta A-129 Utility, but the economic crisis and hyperinflation ended that project...and FMA.

There was no independent helicopter project or design within FMA.

 

[Erdosain]

In 2025 a new book was published about the projects of Augusto Cicaré

 

[Plane nerd]

https://www.zona-militar.com/foros/threads/todo-sobre-la-fma.32609/page-16
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There’s a new photo that recently popped up on my feed about this aircraft

https://twitter.com/x/status/2013720274923925517

View: https://x.com/sisakuheiki/status/2013720274923925517?s=46

 

[hesham]

From JAWA 1964-1965

 

[Erdosain]

A Promissory Program: The ATL

From Aeroespacio 44,1 September-October 1984.

 

[hesham]

From Technika Lotnicza 1978

 

[Erdosain]

Argentine - Brazilian Agreement

Aerospace No. 450 March - April 1986

The starting point for the IA-70/CBA-123

 

[Erdosain]

Introducing the IA-70
Aeroespacio No. 453
September - October 1986

 

[hesham]

From Technika Lotnicza 1984

 

[Erdosain]

Technological Reminiscences in Defense of an Indian

Aerospace No. 594
December 2010

Interesting article written by Engineer Magallanes, one of the designers of this national engine.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2044402910654550471

View: https://twitter.com/TucsonFulcrum/status/2044402910654550471

 

[Erdosain]

IA-35 Huanquero an illustration of I.Ae.24 Calquin launching an air-air missile Tabano

Aeroespacio N° 565

May - June, 2005

 

[Erdosain]

IAé-22 WITH THREE-BLADE PROPELLER

Aeroespacio No. 593
October 2010

 

[Erdosain]

Goodbye to Pucará and welcome Phoenix

Aeroespacio No. 627

January - February 2020

 

[Motocar]

Cutaway Pucara Fenix modified by Motocar

Post in thread 'Motocar's Cutaway drawings' https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/motocars-cutaway-drawings.23005/post-772969

 

[SuperShark]

Two pre-Pucara designs made by two different design teams competing with each other

Any guesses as to what ejection seat the FMA IA-51 would have used? Mk6?

 

[Erdosain]

Any guesses as to what ejection seat the FMA IA-51 would have used? Mk6?

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I don't think they planned to install an ejection seat...the pilot probably had to release the cockpit canopy and let himself fall

 

[Erdosain]

Nice. Another book to add to my growing aviation history collection!

The public is renewed!

When I joined the topic I began to read it from page 1 to the last so as not to repeat photos, texts or fall into the same mistakes as always.

The designation IA-60 that Janes gives to that early variant of the Pucara is wrong, at that time the plane had no designation or name, it was only known as the Delfin project

In fact, there are no internal documents of the former FMA (Fabrica Militar de Aviones - Military Aircraft Factory) that name any variant of the Pucara as IA-60 or Super Pucara.

There were three variants of pucara with turbomeca Astafan turbojet

In March 1974, a team from the IIAE, led by Dr. Reimar Horten, presented a project based on the Pucara, equipped with Astafan jet engines to fulfill the role of an advanced training and tactical support aircraft. The plan is dated November 22, 1973.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2096953975371161732

View: https://x.com/TucsonFulcrum/status/2096953975371161732

 

[Erdosain]

More images, improved by AI

https://twitter.com/x/status/2097087576221884619

View: https://x.com/WDequid/status/2097087576221884619

https://twitter.com/x/status/2097270543581925541

View: https://x.com/WDequid/status/2097270543581925541

 

[Erdosain]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2097652767170986178

View: https://x.com/WDequid/status/2097652767170986178

 

[Erdosain]

This is new to me. It was in the family archives of Engineer Ruiz, the Pucará project manager.

It looks like a cross between a Cessna Citation and a Pucará.

 

[Banderol]

From JAWA 1967-1968,

here's an early concept for IA-58,as a twin boom design,and
they called it A-X.2.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/2098001734454931685

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[Banderol]

This is new to me. It was in the family archives of Engineer Ruiz, the Pucará project manager.

It looks like a cross between a Cessna Citation and a Pucará.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/2098179442245824569

 

[NoBarrelRolls]

Interesting... I am curious how the Pucará wing profile would work in transonic flight regime.

 

[hesham]

Wow,thank you Banderol.

 

[Erdosain]

Considering the Navalized Pampa

https://www.zona-militar.com/2020/10/29/pensando-en-el-pampa-navalizado/

https://twitter.com/x/status/2098375940107592136

View: https://x.com/WDequid/status/2098375940107592136

 

[Erdosain]

The FMA IA-66 Pucará alongside the FMA IA-63 Pampa prototype EX-01. The images show the Pampa's maiden flight on October 6, 1984.

The IA-66 was a variant of the IA-58 Pucará, redesigned to replace its original French Turbomeca Astazou engines with two 1,000 hp American Garrett TPE331-11-601W turboprops.

It came about due to the Venezuelan Air Force's (FAV) interest in acquiring the Pucará, but on the condition that it use US-made powerplants instead of the French ones.

Courtesy of Engineer Alfredo Arce.