Su-30, Su-33, Su-34 and Su-35 News thread, pictures and discussion

Life of Tyo said:
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That's what I'm talking about! I'm quite curious about this as it's quite rare to see an Su-27SK paired with a RVV-AE..But can the R-77 Pylon be simply installed on the Su-27SK without modification? Because I am quite sure that the Pylon is not compatible with the Fire control system or components of the Su-27SK itself..
 
Squirrel said:
all SK/SKM after the first general overhaul got radar N001VE
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That's very interesting information! I'm pretty sure I missed something but it seems very rare to see news reports saying that the Su 27SK received the N001VE (Although the Su-27SKM received the N001VEP1 from the early)
 
Fagin1710 said:
That's very interesting information! I'm pretty sure I missed something but it seems very rare to see news reports saying that the Su 27SK received the N001VE (Although the Su-27SKM received the N001VEP1 from the early)
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Ooops mistake,sorry. SK and MK from 2003 had N001E first . After that so called TNI AU got SKM and MK2 with N001VE (VEP). During the first general overhaul all SK/MK got VEP radar like SKM/MK2. All of them were produced by KnAAZ( former KnAAPO ). Radar N001VE/VEP has so called LITER frequencies which can be used together with R-77E and that capability basic N001/E has not.
 
Squirrel said:
Ooops mistake,sorry. SK and MK from 2003 had N001E first . After that so called TNI AU got SKM and MK2 with N001VE (VEP). During the first general overhaul all SK/MK got VEP radar like SKM/MK2. All of them were produced by KnAAZ( former KnAAPO ). Radar N001VE/VEP has so called LITER frequencies which can be used together with R-77E and that capability basic N001/E has not.
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General Overhaul Su-27SK and Su-30MK never add new radar still use N001E and N001VE only integrated ECM Pod From Belarus
 
ComradeVortex said:
Indonesian Su-27SKM and Su-30MK2s have N001VE
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''28 июля 2019 года на авиабазу ВВС Индонезии "Султан Хасануддин" после завершения технического обслуживания и ремонта на ОАО «558 АРЗ» (Барановичи, Республика Беларусь) доставлены два истребителя Су-30МК (бортовые номера TS-3001 и TS-3002) Военно-воздушных сил этой страны.
По информации издания Scramble Magazine истребители модернизированы до уровня Су-30МК2.''

''On July 28, 2019, two Su-30MK fighter jets (tail numbers TS-3001 and TS-3002) belonging to the Indonesian Air Force were delivered to the Sultan Hasanuddin Air Force Base following the completion of maintenance and repairs at the 558th Aircraft Repair Plant (Baranovichi, Republic of Belarus).
According to Scramble Magazine, the fighters have been upgraded to the Su-30MK2 standard.''

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3721903.html

Also it is interesting the story about Angolan AF or ex- IAF Su-30K :

''Since 2017: 12 x Su-30K. Angola has purchased 12 ex-Indian Su-30K, overhauled and modernized in Baranovichi (Belarus). Contract was signed in October 2013.''

http://www.sukhoi.mariwoj.pl/su-30-ao.htm

Some sources mentioned that they were brought to the level of the KN version ( with the N001V/VE).
 
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EmoBirb said:
And just like that any recent loss has been reversed.
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While I agree with you on this specific point, it can't be overlooked that strikes on aircraft sitting on Russian airbase ramps deal a huge blow to their prestige and credibility, while also slowing down replacement timelines, even if only marginally (admittedly neither the US/EU would fare much better against such coordinated, planned, high-volume daily strikes across such a vast battlespace -- but you still can't afford to lose any deterrence)...

Europe and Russia are on a collision course, and from the RU-perspective, they need to retire the old stuff entirely and start inducting LO platforms en masse to complement the modern Flanker fleet across all theaters...

Losing 50+ 70+ Flankers since 2022 is barely a dent in the overall fleet, but strategically, it matters a hell of a lot. Like any other force (but with even more urgency!), the VKS needs to transition toward a modern LO + 4.5th-gen force structure, which means getting --more-- sustainable LO platforms like Su-75 and Okhotnik (alongside cheaper but capable wingman-type drones) into service ASAP....

While the Ukrainians are understandably quick to adapt to developments in warfare, the Russians are, to their detriment, not -- which will again cost them tons of manpower and other resources that could have been saved by adapting sooner...

https://twitter.com/x/status/2106939941926351157
View: https://x.com/AMK_Mapping_/status/2106939941926351157?s=20
 
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snne said:
While I agree with you on this specific point, it can't be overlooked that strikes on aircraft sitting on Russian airbase ramps deal a huge blow to their prestige and credibility, while also slowing down replacement timelines, even if only marginally (admittedly neither the US/EU would fare much better against such coordinated, planned, high-volume daily strikes across such a vast battlespace -- but you still can't afford to lose any deterrence)...
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There are broadly two ways to avoid losses. Either you evacuate bases under threat (normal procedure), or you hide in HAS. Main problem for Russia is that almost all Soviet HAS, especially the more useful later ones(i.e. able to fit a jet larger than mig-21) were built beyond modern Russia, as it was the interior.

It's certainly embarrassing, but it's also a powerful signal that Russia can run conflict at current attrition rates off production lines, effectively indefinitely.
snne said:
Losing 50+ 70+ Flankers since 2022 is barely a dent in the overall fleet, but strategically, it matters a hell of a lot. Like any other force (but with even more urgency!), the VKS needs to transition toward a modern LO + 4.5th-gen force structure, which means getting --more-- sustainable LO platforms like Su-75 and Okhotnik (alongside cheaper but capable wingman-type drones) into service ASAP....
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To be fair, Su-57 production goes as planned. Ordering them more than now is probably not very sustainable on several fronts, starting with industrial policy.
Other types don't exist as products. S-70 should be nearby, but LTS won't be here anytime soon. Even if it actually exists and flies tomorrow, even if it'll be embraced by VKS and will get resources.
I, however, strongly suspect VKS wants it only for free.
 
This war has shown how vulnerable military assets are to drones. Also it is not surprising since you can look at all these bases; they are surrounded by towns with a bunch of alleys were to attack from; it makes you wonder if the Russians are deploying jammers for drones near all these bases… it looks like they are not.
 

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