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The main facilities in Dnipro have been hit a few times in the war (first time in June 2022 iirc, and last time by the Oreshnik last november I think). Reportedly a bunch of equipments had been moved elsewhere, probably before and during the war, as far as the Transcarpathians.
This is wrong - there is outright not enough underground facilities to even try.
I suspect there is a lot of support from more well known larger firms involved with these systems. A lot of this hints at German, EU, middle eastern funding/support. FirePoint could be the body of this broader collaboration.
Very true Russian Khinzals were used to strike at some Soviet legacy sites but they failed and gave up on that since its not easy to destroy such a facility using conventional means. There are large legacy underground facilities in Ivano Frankivsk for example. Likely large facilities are being built underground or outside the country. With smaller facilities built/located anywhere
I dont think Ukraine is doing any large scale production in such surface level facilities. You can tell by the post header "removing Ukraine's capability to strike deeply into Russian territory" that it doesnt add up. Destroying some surface level facilities does nothing to underground facilities nor to facilities located outside Ukraine or the whole supply chain. For example it was revealed FirePoint will be producing solid rocket fuel related products from Denmark, how does the destruction of such facilities as in the video prevent SAPSAN from receiving solid rocket fuel if its being produced in Denmark? Even that Denmark facility may be a ruse to the actual facility which could still be located in another EU country.
They said serial production hasnt yet started, so likely they have some stock from the prototypes? I also get the impression they may be further along than they publicly announce.
Couldnt they have large storage sites in other EU countries? I think this is part of whats pressuring Russia to start poking the boundaries by sending drones into Polish airspace.
Indeed:
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Some are saying this is an S-300V missile.
The SA-12 is about the same width at base as an Iskander but the lip at the top doesn't really match either missile.
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The next stage is to make them air-launched.View: https://x.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1998718847340171669?s=20
If Zelensky’s Claim Of Using Homegrown Ballistic Missile For First Time Is True, It’s A Big Deal
Ukraine has long pined for a missile of its own of this kind to provide a potent means of striking targets deep inside Russia without restrictions. Ukraine has long pined for a missile of its own of this kind to provide a potent means of striking targets deep inside Russia without restrictions.
Zelensky confirms Ukraine has been using the Sapsan to strike targets in Russia. Also claims some of the strikes the Russians have been reporting as Neptune were actually done by Sapsan.
This would confirm they are in some form of serial production. At the end of the day these have to be poduced in mass to have any meaningful effect. With a range of 750km they could be used to strike GBADs and clear ways for cruise missiles.
Is it really 4 tons though? I've done a 2 minute search and couldn't find any reference to its size or mass.
It's closely based on the Iskander-M, so that is the basis of my assumption.
At the risk of sounding dumb, isn't the Kinzhal an air launched Iskander?
I think that may come from the FP series of ballistic missiles, not sure they will adapt Sapsan for air launch over creating a specific ballistic missile suitable to carry on their aircraft. Its quite large possibly larger than the Iskander
They are using Sapsan which is even longer range than Hrim 2 at least 700km. But I agree air launched ballistic missiles could be made to fit Ukraine's current fleet.
Evidently you don't need a 4 ton missile to deliver 500kg to 500km.
Probably not, but when you mention LORA and it's quoted 430km range, it should be noted that it comes with various warhead sizes, so I'm not sure whether 430km is achieved with the maximum 570kg warhead. But yes, it depends on construction (steel and/or titanium vs carbon or kevlar composite) and trajectory (aero-ballistic, exo-atmosheric MET, or HGV with either of the previous 2 trajectory options prior) and whether the warhead is independant and number of stages.
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