French Light Civil Aircraft & Helicopter Projects and Prototypes

[walter]

Hi,
Scintex ML-145: was a four seat low-wing cabin touring aircraft project ,which led to ML-250.

Hi Hesham.
The ML-145 was actually built and flown. Plesase see picture

 

[avion ancien]

It would appear that the Scintex ML-145 is not alone, from amongst the aeroplanes featured in this thread, in having been actually built and flown. If Pierre Gaillard (Les Avions Français de 1944 à 1964) is accepted as authority, the following were both built and flown (the dates in parentheses being that given by him generally as that of their first flights):

Holleville Bambi (27.7.53)
Petitbon RP.40 (1.9.53)
Poullin JP.30 (15.8.52)
Mangin MRC.1 (9.51)
Krueger EK.51 (29.5.50)
Micro-Aviation RG.501 (1949)
Grenet G.47 (1948)
Fleury RF.10 (9.48)
Paumier MP.1 (1948)
Bassou Sport (1948)
Chapeau et Blanchet Lévrier (1946)
Williams X-28 (1947)
Lavoisier LP.24 (1946)

I accept that it cannot be proved, categorically, that all of the foregoing flew. But all were constructed (hence the photographs) and those that didn't fly were, at least, completed and many underwent ground testing. Such is evident from the text of the articles and news reports, in Les Ailes, which accompanied the photographs taken therefrom which have been posted on this thread. Perhaps it would be preferable to post the photographs in the context of those articles and news reports, translated into English, and material concerning the aeroplanes that appears in Pierre Gaillard's book and other books which record the largely amateur built aeroplanes of this period?

 

[cluttonfred]

I don’t see a problem with including built prototypes/one-offs in this or other project threads.

 

[avion ancien]

I don’t see a problem with including built prototypes/one-offs in this or other project threads.

Matthew Long, Editor
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Nor do I, but I do think that it would be helpful, in text accompanying a post, to distinguish between (a) projects which existed only on paper and (b) prototypes and 'one-offs' which actually were built and flown.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

here is also a safety aircraft Project designed by the pilot,Mr. Daniel Robert Bancharelle.

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[hesham]

From Ailes 9/11/1957,

here is a strange Info about Mignet and J. D. Allard HMA.214 aircraft,maybe a Project,,and I know only
the Allard D.40,even I don't know if he was the same designer or what ?,need help.

 

[hesham]

From Ailes 3/1/1959,

was that SCEPA 145 the same as Scintex ML-145 or not ?.

 

[hesham]

From Ailes 24/10/1953,

here is a prototype to a light aircraft,designed by Louis Notteghem and called LN.1.

 

[hesham]

From Ailes 19/9/1959,

here is a Project from Mr. Labat,called IL-95 Super Nomade.

 

[hesham]

From Ailes 9/2/1960,

here is just an idea for combining the Mignet concept with Lemaire one.

 

[hesham]

From Ailes 16/1/1960,

here is an idea for lightweight airplane,created by Mr. Roussel,but I don't know if he was the same designer of R series or not ?.

 

[hesham]

From Ailes 17/9/1960,

here is a JAB.60 light aircraft,which was designed by Mr. Boillon.

 

[hesham]

From Ailes 19/9/1959,

here is a Project from Mr. Labat,called IL-95 Super Nomade.

And from 25/7/1959.

 

[hesham]

From TU 161,

also Mr. Emile Bogaert designed airplane called EB-3;

On September 15, 1950, Emile Bogaert obtained the flight permit for a new aircraft called EB-3 N ° 01,
equipped with the same Aubier-Dunne engine. registered F-WCDM, it was a single-seater low wing
monoplane and fixed gear, piloting in the open air. It is assumed that it was the last plane built, by
this amateur, still installed in Moisselles. From the numbering (EB-3) we can assume that Emile Bogaert
had imagined three aircraft, but the editor of this section has no other information on the achievements
of this manufacturer.

 

[hesham]

From TU 101,

here is a single seat low-wing monoplane,called CS.01,and designed by Cabanes-Saissac.

 

[hesham]

From Aviation Francaise 1945,

I don't what was it,a Modeller or real airplane Project,it was called J.B.1,from Jacques Bachelard ?.

 

[hesham]

From Aviation Francaise 1946,

here is a mention for Mr. Georges Rousseau's Project,it was a four-seat amphibian aircraft,intended
for tourist,who know more ?,in TU magazine,they spoke about him and early activities,he built an
airplane based on Mignet HM.8.

 

[hesham]

From TU 82,

here is all Info about Giraud-Castex Elytroplan.

 

[hesham]

here is a Poullin JP.30 light aircraft.

From Aviation magazine 1954,

the first time to hear about Poullin JP.31 ?.

 

[walter]

Hi Hesham!
In your text it says "engine not specified". AFAIK the JP-31 was a projected variant of the JP-30 with 160hp Lycoming O-320. but it was never built.

 

[hesham]

Hi Hesham!
In your text it says "engine not specified". AFAIK the JP-31 was a projected variant of the JP-30 with 160hp Lycoming O-320. but it was never built.

You was right my dear Walter,and from Aviation magazine 1964.

 

[blackkite]

What is written?

 

[hesham]

What is written?

You are right;

J. POULLIN (PROJECT). - Jean Poullin, which we know he realized,a
few years ago, a small two-seater for tourism called Globe-Trotter,
then a single-seater powder (agricultural) JP-30. had failed to produce
the JP-31 version, more powerful. evolved from the latter. He works
currently planning a new powder aircraft, including the central engine,
a 90hp Continental C-90,would cause two large propellers lateral
diameter driven by belts.

That means he designed anther Project as agricultural aircraft,powered
by single engine,driven a two propellers,right ?.

 

[hesham]

From Aviation magazine 1967,

here is a Vintras JPV.30 Joker light aircraft,and maybe anther two Projects,JPV.40 & JPV.50.

 

[Aubi]

JPV.30 is a biplace side-by-side trainer. JPV.30 is a tri-place utility airplane. Two JPV.40s are mentioned as being built by amateur builders. One JPV.50, high-wing derivative of JPV.40, is being built too.

 

[hesham]

From Aviation magazine Inter. 1969,

the Pottier P.40 Project.

 

[walter]

Dear Hesham!
The P-40 was actually built and AFAIK 2 examples were completed, one in France (F-PBYF) and one in Belgium (OO-68). Attached a photo of the one in France.
Also some text:
single-seat sport
No.1: one 25hp VW1200 piston engine
max. speed 113 mph, cruise 98 mph, ceiling 9,500ft, range 375 miles
wingspan 19.695ft; length 8.530ft; height 3.936ft
DETAILS: The P-40 was an original design (Mr. Jean Pottier's first to be built) homebuilt aircraft and featuring a flying wing configuration. Development already started in 1968, but it was until 1976 (1975?) that the first P-40 was flown. This aircraft, which reportedly only made one brief flight and which was destroyed in an accident on the maiden flight, was built in France, by Mr. Bela Nogrady with one 25hp VW1200 engine. A second example was built in Belgium (OO-68) and that aircraft later joined the Brussels Military Museum (Musée Royale de l’Armée et d’Histoire Militaire Bruxelles) collection. No further aircraft of the type were built and Mr. Pottier concentrated on more conventional designs such as the P-70, P-80 etc.
Production: 2

 

[Retrofit]

Dear Hesham!
The P-40 was actually built and AFAIK 2 examples were completed, one in France (F-PBYF) and one in Belgium (OO-68). Attached a photo of the one in France.
Also some text:
single-seat sport
No.1: one 25hp VW1200 piston engine
max. speed 113 mph, cruise 98 mph, ceiling 9,500ft, range 375 miles
wingspan 19.695ft; length 8.530ft; height 3.936ft
DETAILS: The P-40 was an original design (Mr. Jean Pottier's first to be built) homebuilt aircraft and featuring a flying wing configuration. Development already started in 1968, but it was until 1976 (1975?) that the first P-40 was flown. This aircraft, which reportedly only made one brief flight and which was destroyed in an accident on the maiden flight, was built in France, by Mr. Bela Nogrady with one 25hp VW1200 engine. A second example was built in Belgium (OO-68) and that aircraft later joined the Brussels Military Museum (Musée Royale de l’Armée et d’Histoire Militaire Bruxelles) collection. No further aircraft of the type were built and Mr. Pottier concentrated on more conventional designs such as the P-70, P-80 etc.
Production: 2

Photo of the second example on show at Brussels Military Museum.
This P-40 was built by Jean d’Otreppe de Bouvette.

 

[walter]

Dear Retrofit!
Thank you for the information on the Belgian P-40. Would you know what engine is installed in OO-68?

 

[Retrofit]

Dear Walter,
I just have the information that it was a two-stroke engine, but nothing else.

 

[hesham]

From Aviation magazine 1959,

I never heard about this SOCEPA or SCEPA 145 light aircraft,and was
it related to Scintex 145 or not ?.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

here is a helicopter from 1954,designed by Mr. Guy Delannoy,called JDA-01.

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[hesham]

From Georges Messier's site;

the Société d'Atude et de Construction Aéronavale Le Grix in
Marseille associated with AVIA to produce a number of its gliders
and sailplanes,this Info from TU magazine,but they also mentioned
that,there was a few Projects,but no details are known about them,
and maybe they were contained a normal aircraft,such like this,Le
Grix LG-40 ?,as I think,who heard about it ?.

¤ A C A M ¤ Association des anCiens et des Actifs des sociétés Messier

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[hesham]

From JAWA 1991/92,

the little known aircraft,Lucas L10.

 

[fabulousfour]

Some more French light aircraft.
From rsafrance.com

https://www.rsafrance.com/index.php/item/download/33_438ba464c702d845e360e43149b52ef2

The Vintras-Boullier VB.20 Isard F-PMXL two-seater with 90 hp.

 

[fabulousfour]

The Piel CP.402 F-POIU, a derivative of the CP.40 with a Rectimo engine (built or owned by Caillebotte?)

 

[fabulousfour]

Another picture of the Vintras JPV.30 F-PTXE two-seater with 115 hp.

 

[fabulousfour]

And the whole page with text.

 

[All-Aero]

www.All-Aero.com is in awe at the knowledge, and ability to locate (and read French) such rare and obscure aircraft.
Wish you guys wold contribute to All-Aero

 

[hesham]

Hi,

Do you know the Wassmer Wa-70 light aircraft ?,
it was side-by-side two seat trainer aircraft with T-tail (only a project).

Anther small info,it was powered by 90 hp piston engine.

From Aviation magazine 1973.