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Re: The Admiralty and AEW: Royal Navy Airborne Early Warning Projects
« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2012, 03:47:25 pm »
Excellent Service! ;D  Superb work.  ;D I cannot believe I am the first Yank to order. What's wrong guys. Thanks Chris keep it up! :)


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Re: The Admiralty and AEW: Royal Navy Airborne Early Warning Projects
« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2012, 11:10:03 pm »
Wow, my copy arrived today already - in New Zealand!


Nice work, Chris, Royal Mail & NZ Post :)


Quick glance through looks very interesting, will post a review tomorrow.

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Re: The Admiralty and AEW: Royal Navy Airborne Early Warning Projects
« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2012, 02:50:13 am »
I've had a quick look through the book; one question that remains is this: was there a relationship between the FASS radar system in the P.139 et al and the setup used in the Nimrod AEW.3?
According to http://www.spyflight.co.uk/Nim%20aew.htm, the Nimrod system was the result of trying to get the FASS idea to work. I.e. the system became much too large to be carried by the likes of the P.139. Was there a solution to this in the works? E.g. offloading the processing to a ship?


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Re: The Admiralty and AEW: Royal Navy Airborne Early Warning Projects
« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2012, 07:16:06 am »
Excellent Service! ;D  Superb work.  ;D I cannot believe I am the first Yank to order. What's wrong guys. Thanks Chris keep it up! :)


Jim


Actually other yanks have ordered too.  My copy arrived yesterday and i'm really enjoying it. 




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Re: The Admiralty and AEW: Royal Navy Airborne Early Warning Projects
« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2012, 11:59:00 am »
Indeed, but Jim's is inscribed as such.

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Re: The Admiralty and AEW: Royal Navy Airborne Early Warning Projects
« Reply #65 on: January 30, 2012, 02:14:38 am »
I hope this works. Here is a drawing of the AEW aircraft from Issue 3 of Interavia
magazine from 1962.  These large format Swiss magazines are a goldmine. I photocopied
some pages years ago, but I think the original mags are quite easy to find.
 
Although not mentioned the AEW kit is clearly visible and the aircraft has the hallmarks
of the Hawker 583V.

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Re: The Admiralty and AEW: Royal Navy Airborne Early Warning Projects
« Reply #66 on: January 31, 2012, 03:02:05 pm »
Bought your book Chris, fascenating read and much appreciated.

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Re: The Admiralty and AEW: Royal Navy Airborne Early Warning Projects
« Reply #67 on: February 01, 2012, 05:05:12 am »
I hope this works. Here is a drawing of the AEW aircraft from Issue 3 of Interavia
magazine from 1962.  These large format Swiss magazines are a goldmine. I photocopied
some pages years ago, but I think the original mags are quite easy to find.
 
Although not mentioned the AEW kit is clearly visible and the aircraft has the hallmarks
of the Hawker 583V.


Hmm, this looks like a speculative magazine artist's impression. Its Hawker from the side and Vickers from the top. The 583V was a Vickers, not Hawker design.
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Re: The Admiralty and AEW: Royal Navy Airborne Early Warning Projects
« Reply #68 on: February 01, 2012, 10:11:15 am »
Caption - "A single lift and thrust engine with a bypass blower and rotary jets. Variable wing sweep."

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Re: The Admiralty and AEW: Royal Navy Airborne Early Warning Projects
« Reply #69 on: February 02, 2012, 02:19:31 am »
Mike
 
You are right the designs are "generic", drawn for the magazine by an artist but all in the same
Hawker style.  That is why I wrote Hawker instead of Vickers.  Also I got the issue number wrong
I think it is 5 rather than 3.
 
The drawing is a Hawker and Chris Gibson knows more. so I will let him explain. Shame its not the AEW
583, in fact its not AEW at all.....
 
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Re: The Admiralty and AEW: Royal Navy Airborne Early Warning Projects
« Reply #70 on: February 02, 2012, 09:33:29 am »

      Got my copies in the mail (in the US of A) yesterday. Both books are very interesting, thanks Chris!

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Re: The Admiralty and AEW: Royal Navy Airborne Early Warning Projects
« Reply #71 on: February 02, 2012, 01:31:16 pm »
Evening all,

I was at the Hawker Archive at Brooklands the other day and had a look through a few files. In one file is a copy of the original drawing of UK75's VG VTOL type. It is a Hawker study (well, when I say study, BR3V might be more apt) for a swing-wing V/STOL  It was drawn by Roy Braybrook (before he wrote for Air International he was a Hawker designer, who scribbled away at a desk at the back of the design office) and the dorsal lump is a saddle tank.

I did wonder if this design was a response to (or the inspiration for) the Vickers Type 583V.

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Re: The Admiralty and AEW: Royal Navy Airborne Early Warning Projects
« Reply #72 on: February 04, 2012, 06:55:36 am »
Can I just say, what a fantastic book Mr Gibson, you've done it again! So many aew designs but so little end product. Should have come as no surprise really! Minor note, have the two diagrams on page 13 been accidently been mixed up or am I reading it wrong?

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Re: The Admiralty and AEW: Royal Navy Airborne Early Warning Projects
« Reply #73 on: February 04, 2012, 09:32:21 am »
You've been on the sauce. The top one is the mushroom, bottom one is the rotodome. Frustratingly the Admiralty used the two terms interchangeably for a while.

Glad you like it. I enjoyed doing the research and was pleased to see that the latest codename for the latest RN AEW programme is "Crow's Nest". They must've read the draft.

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Re: The Admiralty and AEW: Royal Navy Airborne Early Warning Projects
« Reply #74 on: February 08, 2012, 09:47:58 pm »
Just receive my copy :) :) :) .
Very clear and interesting.
Beautiful drawings.
Thanks Chris!
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