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Offline tonton42

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Re: Burnelli projects
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2012, 12:42:27 am »

From Air Progress, April 1965 3 views for the B-2000 and the BX-AB-3.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

Waaaooo ! Really "What if" projects  :o  ! We can imagine if Mr. Burnelli was friend with Mr. Rutan ... and Mr. Boeing !
Thank you Mark !
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Re: Burnelli projects
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2012, 01:57:18 am »
Waaaooo ! Really "What if" projects  :o  ! We can imagine if Mr. Burnelli was friend with Mr. Rutan ... and Mr. Boeing !

Certainly not with Boeing, considering they more or less stole his designs for the Models 754 and 759 Spanloader series...

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Re: Burnelli projects
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2012, 06:54:22 pm »
The 3d view for Burnelli projects are very rare. I'm still looking for one for the UB-20.

Ask and it shall be given unto you... This is from an old German magazine.

Stargazer thanks for the effort. I have this one and I think the original source of this one is this:
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1929/1929%20-%200456.html


But this is the Burnelli CB-16 not the UB-20. The UB-20 has fixed undercarriage and not separated cockpits . As far I know this can be a good base for the UB-20 because seems this one was derived from the CB-16 and the dimesions where similar. Any complementary information will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Burnelli projects
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2013, 10:48:06 pm »
Does anyone know of any single-engine Burnelli-type aircraft, built or unbuilt, pre- or post-WWII?  I can't remember seeing anything but multi-engine types.  Cheers, Matthew
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Re: Burnelli projects
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2013, 09:17:53 am »
Does anyone know of any single-engine Burnelli-type aircraft, built or unbuilt, pre- or post-WWII?  I can't remember seeing anything but multi-engine types.  Cheers, Matthew

Hi Fred! Been through my Burnelli files and wasn't able to fnd even one project with a single engine. I guess the fact that Burnelli's designs were all of the lifting body type means it would have been difficult to consider the use of a single engine.

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Re: Burnelli projects
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2013, 11:09:05 am »
I've searched, too, with the same result as Stéphane. But generally, I think,
such a design would have been feasible. I've tried to transform the jet fighter
into a pusher prop as a proposal.But most Burnelli designs were for
larger aircraft, maybe this limited the possibility for single engined types.

It takes a long time, before all mistakes are made ...

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Re: Burnelli projects
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2013, 11:29:40 am »
Thanks, guys.  My personal interest is in the possibility of taking a Burnelli-type concept right down to the light aircraft or even microlight category and I was wondering if there were any single-engine examples from Burnelli himself.  Cheers, Matthew
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Re: Burnelli projects
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2013, 04:05:46 am »
An old British Burnelli leaflet contains the top and front view of what appears to be the UB-14 transport.

However, the profile view differs from the top and front views in showing inline engines as opposed to the regular radial ones. This variant was captioned as the "British Burnelli BR Mark II" and was said to be powered by 15,000 lbs. Rolls Royce Kestrel XVI engines. Gross weight figures were missing on the document.

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Re: Burnelli projects
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2013, 11:41:26 am »
Side view of the Clyde 'Clipper' I think.

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« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2013, 12:38:10 pm »
Side view of the Clyde 'Clipper' I think.

I agree  :)


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Re: Burnelli projects
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2013, 01:26:01 pm »
Thanks folks. This must have been an early configuration for what became the OA-1 Clyde Clipper. What kept me from thinking about the Clyde Clipper was the fact that the design lacked the characteristic canted tail fins that the OA-1 had. Also the designation "BR Mark II" was different.

I'm attaching a quick comparison of the BR Mark II profile, the cutaway profile the patent artwork, and the profile of the actual OA-1 Clyde Clipper as it was built. This will show the differences as well as the many similarities.

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Re: Burnelli projects
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2014, 04:24:52 am »
Hi,


unfortunately I don't remember the page or the Issue from Les Ailes journal,for
this Burnelli aircraft,fitted with four 37mm cannons.


« Last Edit: February 17, 2014, 02:07:57 pm by hesham »

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Re: Burnelli projects
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2014, 08:41:59 am »
Very interesting. A Burnelli "gunship"? Sadly the images are very low resolution.

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Re: Burnelli projects
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2014, 12:32:52 pm »
Despite the crude drawing , this illustration made me think
about a Scottish Aircraft & Engineering project based on
the Clyde Clipper.
It could be the Clyde Comet twin engined fighter armed with
37-mm canon and machine guns.....

If Hesham could give the reference for  the article, perhaps more will be found.