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Soviet/Russian UAV and UCAV projects
« on: April 30, 2006, 05:05:47 am »
A few Yakovlev UAV designs.

Originally posted by overscan to the Key forums.

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Re: Soviet/Russian UAV and UCAV projects
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2006, 05:06:39 am »
Myasishchev M-62 Orel.

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Re: Soviet/Russian UAV and UCAV projects
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2006, 05:22:03 am »
Yakovlev is working on an UCAV sometimes called Yak-133BR based on the Yak-130 trainer. It is expected to have 40% parts commonality with the Yak-130.
http://www.yak.ru/ENG/PROD/new_130m.php

The image below shows Yakovlev's Proryv line of UCAV/UAVs. Proryv-U is for strike, Proryv-R for reconnaissance, and Proryv-RLD for AEW. From http://paralay.narod.ru/bpla.html.
The above page also mentions 'Klest' and 'Voron' UAVs. Anyone have more info about them? I think 'Klost' in the first post could actually be 'Klest'. And Voron most certainly isn't the M-21 clone.

Also I'd be glad to hear anything more about Russian UCAV work.

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Re: Soviet/Russian UAV and UCAV projects
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2006, 08:32:00 am »
Sukhoi BAS-62  (Unmanned Aviation System-62) with three family members.
More info and graphics here http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/planes/projects/bpla/complex/
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Re: Soviet/Russian UAV and UCAV projects
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2006, 04:45:10 pm »
Hi folks,

There was also the KVAND,VTOL  Shtil (“Calm”) UCAV/UAV shown at MAKS2005. The design is actually by the design laboratory INDELA, a structural division of KVAND.  Quoting from some of the Russian Media releases:

The UAV uses a very complex structural gas turbine engine system, which is mounted in the center of fuselage and consists of three turbo-jet engines. Two engines are high capacity turbines and provide the main tilt draft necessary for both hover and horizontal flight. The third engine is much less powerful and is used as a pilot engine in hover mode.The drone also has a radio transparent body which makes its detection by radar extremely difficult.

The Shtil aircraft is flexible enough to be used for a multitude of applications. One of its major functions is surveillance, in commercial and municipal sectors, as well as in the military field. Geological surveys, oil and gas pipeline monitoring, jamming, aerial target application (the drone has a high flight speed of up to 780 km per hour), rescue mission assistance at emergencies both on land and at sea – this is just a small list of functions the new drone is able to perform.







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Re: Soviet/Russian UAV and UCAV projects
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2006, 01:16:51 pm »
One interesting Sukhoi study (something like Boeing´s Sensorcraft) but what is on second picture?? It was named KORSHUN...

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Re: Soviet/Russian UAV and UCAV projects
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2006, 02:02:44 pm »
I believe Sukhoi worked on a UAV called "Korshun" back in the  70s?
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Re: Soviet/Russian UAV and UCAV projects
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2006, 02:04:33 pm »
Fomin, Flanker Story:

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in the early 1970s, the Kulon plant rolled out for testing the first prototypes of the Su-24 tactical bomber (in the parlance of the day - attack aircraft) and was preparing the T-4 ('100') long-range high-speed missile-carrying/reconnaissance aircraft. Work on upgrading the Su-15 interceptor and Su-17 fighter-bomber was also in full swing. In addition, the OKB was also designing the T-4MS ('200') multi-role strategic strike aircraft system, the Su-25 attack aircraft and the Korshun unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV).
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Re: Soviet/Russian UAV and UCAV projects
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2006, 12:39:05 pm »
One interesting Sukhoi study (something like Boeing´s Sensorcraft) but what is on second picture?? It was named KORSHUN...

Judging by the strange "pogostick" landing gear, this design is meant for a parachute landing.

My guess is that this Soviet UAV proposal is equivilent in concept to the Firebee drone, although it is hard to judge the size.

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Re: Soviet/Russian UAV and UCAV projects
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2006, 01:54:29 pm »
From Oleg Samoilovich's 'Close to Sukhoi'

After T-4MC 'fiasco victory' in a timeframe of 1972-1974 Sukhoi OKB was involved in Soviet Air Force hi-ranked eggheads UAV-mania caused by US RAND eggheads publication that stated that USAF could not by any manned fighter in 2000 as military airplanes cost grew with astonomic speed, so all future belongs to cheaper UAVs.

All (!) Soviet OKBs were ordered to begin UAV recearch. Sukhoi was ordered to built a 500-kg bomb payload mini-bomber, Korshun, controlled by Su-24 (PUN-24, punkt upravleniya navigatziey, navigation control post) airborne command post. Naum Chernyakov was a chief designer.

Samoilovich belived that this paper intent was to involve USSR in meaningless race into UAVs, while US actively continued to design and built pretty manned military aircrafts (F-15,16,-18), while Sukhoi spent two years of work for nothing, having Korshun at starting phases of assembly in 1974. Then VPK ordered to stop the UAV efforts, and all that stuff passed away, except Tupolev's Strizh http://airbase.ru/sb/russia/tupolev/141/img/tu141_3.jpg and Yakovlev's Pchela http://www.yak.ru/PIC/VIEWS/61t1.gif.
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Re: Soviet/Russian UAV and UCAV projects
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2006, 06:35:31 pm »
From Oleg Samoilovich's 'Close to Sukhoi'

After T-4MC 'fiasco victory' in a timeframe of 1972-1974 Sukhoi OKB was involved in Soviet Air Force hi-ranked eggheads UAV-mania caused by US RAND eggheads publication that stated that USAF could not by any manned fighter in 2000 as military airplanes cost grew with astonomic speed, so all future belongs to cheaper UAVs.


I do wonder if the operational use of the Firebee over Vietnam, as well as successful weapons delivery trials, encouraged Russian UCAV development?

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Re: Soviet/Russian UAV and UCAV projects
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2006, 04:34:13 am »
I thought that Korshun was younger. However thanx a lot.

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Re: Soviet/Russian UAV and UCAV projects
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2007, 09:57:52 am »
 Thank you my dears Lark and Richard,

And there is Kvand pilotless VTOL aircraft.
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Re: Soviet/Russian UAV and UCAV projects
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2007, 02:52:24 pm »
Some more information on the Kvand UAV:

According to the November 2005 Russia/CIS Observer, this is the Shtil-3 UAV. A model was presented in August 2005 by the Russian-Belarus KVAND company. It is a small 24-kg unmanned V/STOL (vertical/ short takeoff and landing) aircraft equipped with three turbojet engines. Flight duration in the helicopter (vertical) mode will be 20 minutes, or 140 minutes in the aircraft mode. Flight speeds will be up to 780 km/hr. Payload weight will range from 13 kg to 63 kg, depending on the takeoff/landing mode. However, no dimensions are given.

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Re: Soviet/Russian UAV and UCAV projects
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2007, 03:49:54 am »
OKB Sokol (Kazan) perspective strike UCAV. Found at www.missiles.ru
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