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Offline hesham

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Hurel-Dubois Projects
« on: January 23, 2007, 08:28:35 am »
Hallo,

Hurel-Dubois HD 45 a turbojet transport aircraft, and I read about it in a competition
I will remember it.

in some sites a number of unknown projects for example
www.airwarfareforum.com and http://www.acam.asso.fr/histo/premiers_equipements7.php?PHPSESSID=104390befd43a5c3c1f69293ea1a1405
such as Hurel-Dubois HD-37,HD-40,HD-41 and HD-160

any ideas please.
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Re: Hurel-Dubois Projects
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2007, 11:52:52 am »
The HD.37 was a flying car ferry, based on the HD.31/32 series.
The HD.40 and 41 were forerunners to the HD.45, the Caravelle contender
The HD.45 was a contender in the competition, which saw the
SNCASE Caravelle as winner.
The HD.160 was an business turboprop/ light transport project of 1964/65,
totally untypical for Hurel-Dubois, as it had no high aspect ratio wing.
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Re: Hurel-Dubois Projects
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2007, 12:31:16 pm »
The HD-130 was a project for a light transport, designed around 1964, a high wing
aircraft carrying up to 17 passengers, quite similar to the Shorts Skyvan, but
with the typical Hurel-Dubois wing.
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Re: Hurel-Dubois Projects
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2007, 06:44:03 am »

Let's go back to the heavy transports...


Does the Hurel-Dubois HD34 series count as a "heavy transport?"  Only 8 were produced, so while it wasn't an unbuilt project, it certainly might be described as "barely built." :D

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Re: Hurel-Dubois Projects
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2007, 11:43:31 am »
Well, the HD-37, a HD-34 derivative intended as flying car ferry, perhaps could
have been used as a military transport. And the HD-321 even was used in a military
role during the Suez conflict, painted with yellow and black "Suez stripes" (something
for the modelers ?). A heavy transport ? That's a good question ! The HD-37 would
have had a payload of up to 8.500 kg, still in the "medium" class, I think. But is there
an exact definition ?
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Re: Hurel-Dubois Projects
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2007, 01:28:31 am »
Issue 63 of Air Enthusiast has an article on some of the projects. I wonder if Replic, Air Fan or Le Fana de le Avions had covered Hurel Dubois and his high aspect ratio aircraft. One of his designs the HD.34, formerly with the French Geographical Survey flies regularly at air shows in France. You can see it here at http://membres.lycos.fr/hurelduboishd34/

Personally, I wouldn't mind taking a ride on this whimsical but romantic prop aircraft.

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Re: Hurel-Dubois Projects
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2007, 08:45:10 am »
Hurel-Dubois HD.332 assault transport project

Also from my dear Jemiba,

HD.35,HD.353 and HD.355 was twin engined ASM aircraft.
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Re: Hurel-Dubois Projects
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2007, 10:36:55 am »
The HD 35 was an adation of the HD 321, powered by Wright 982 engines.
To improve take-off and attack speed, additional Marboré jet engines were
proposed, changing the designation to HD 353. For the envisaged Wright
engines, France would have had to pay in $, scarce during that time, so
"pure french" version was planned, with licence built Hercules engines and
two Marboré, too, changing designation again to HD 355. The basic HD.35
is shown in volume 2 of Cunys "Les Avion De Combar Francais". In the RAF
Flying Review .8.55 I've found a photo of a model of the HD 35, displayed
at the Paris Air Show, which has a different tail and obviously no radome.
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Re: Hurel-Dubois Projects
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2007, 11:01:47 am »
Hi,

The Hurel-Dubois HD-70 was anther transport project but I have not
any details about it and the HD-109 was low wing twin engined light
transport project,powered by two 530 hp Astazou II engines.

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Re: Hurel-Dubois Projects
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2007, 09:20:08 am »
Hi,

A small info about Hurel-Dubois HD.70,it was twin engined transport
aircraft project intended to compete Nord N.2600,it was accommodated
28-36 passengers and powered by two Dart engines,its estimated
speed was 310 mph.

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Re: Hurel-Dubois Projects
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2007, 09:25:07 am »
Hi,

The Hurel-Duboid HD-150 was small version of HD-130 as a military
transport.

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Re: Hurel-Dubois Projects
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2007, 12:57:54 pm »
I only know the HD.151, IF the usual designation system was used
(that's not for ceratin, of course !), then it would have been a direct
derivative of the HD.150 and , in fact larger than the HD.130. The
HD.151 was designed as a tactical transport with two 930 hp Bastan
engines and boundary layer control, renouncing with the typical Hurel
Dubois wing with high aspect ratio, which still could be found in the
desig of hte HD.130, a lihgt civil transport.
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Re: Hurel-Dubois Projects
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2007, 09:50:37 am »
Teamed with Sud Aviation Hurel-Dubois perhaps came quite near a
real production contract with the SAHD-120, as a contender for a
tactical transport, that eventually saw the Transall as the winner.

The SAHD 120 looks like a  Transall with a typical HD-wing.
 
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Re: Hurel-Dubois Projects
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2008, 06:57:43 am »
The flight international archive has several good articles on one of the HD that made it into production, including a very nice cutaway.
I will find the link when i get off work and post it.
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Re: Hurel-Dubois Projects
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2010, 02:25:18 pm »
Dear Boys and Girls, here is another French "Secret Project" for you; the Hurel-Dubois HD-37 which was a turboprop-powered car ferry variation on Maurice Hurel's standard theme. Note the Rolls Royce Dart engines and the upper deck passenger cabin abaft the wing......

Actually, it's not "secret", but it is a "project"......

The cutting is taken from the 25th July 1959 issue of Les Ailes......

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