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Re: CANT and CRDA list
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2017, 01:28:37 pm »

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Re: CANT and CRDA list
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2017, 11:39:47 pm »
Misprint...the Picture say Z.1007bis, in the article Z.1107 and you Z.1017 ;)
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Re: CANT and CRDA list
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2017, 11:51:20 am »
A stab at the 'Z' designation series ...

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CANT 'Z.5xx' Designations - Filippo Zappata Seaplanes

Z.501 - 1934 single-engined parasol flying boat, x 455
 - Z.501 prototype (I-AGIL): 1 x 750 hp I-F Asso 750R
 - Z.501 prod'n (I) : 1 x I-F Asso 750R, span 22.50 m
 - Z.501 prod'n (II): 1 x 900 hp I-F Asso XI RC.15

Z.502 - (??) no details, possibly a Z.501 development

Z.503 - (??) no details, possibly a Z.501 development

Z.504 - 1934 biplanes shipboard recce flying boat, x 1
 - Z.504: 1 x 610 hp Piaggio P.IX R.C.40, span 12.00 m
 -- Z.504 failed to win contract, used as civil trainer
 -- http://forum.valka.cz/topic/view/69786/CANT-Z-504
 -- http://www.samolotypolskie.pl/uploads/Products/product_625/preview_cant-z-504_src_1.jpg

Z.505 - 1935 trimotor, twin-float passenger seaplane, x 1
 - Z.505: 3 x 840 hp I-F Asso XI R2C.16, span 28.30 m
 -- Z.505 prototype underpowered, crew 4 + up to 8 pax
 -- http://www.airwar.ru/enc/cw1/z505.html

Z.506 - 1935 transport/bomber twin-float seaplane, x 356
 - Z.506 : 1935 Airone, 12-14 pax transport, span 26.50 m
 -- Z.506 prototype: 3 x 610 hp Piaggio Stella IX radials
 - Z.506A: 1936 prod'n transport, 2 x 750 hp A-R 126 RC.34
 - Z.506B: 1939 recce-bomber, 2 x 750 hp A-R 127 RC.55s
 - Z.506C: Civil version,* Z.506B tailplane, A-R 126 RC.10
 -- * Some Z.506A conv., most Z.506C are new-builds
 - Z.506S: Soccorso, air-sea rescue vers. of Z.506B
 - Z.506T: Terrestre, landplane conv., x 1 (I-POLA)
 -- Z.506T converted for endurance record, not used
 -- Z.506T: http://www.virtualcorsair.fr/flotte/506_t01-1.jpg
 -- 3v: http://drawingdatabase.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/z506_d1.gif

Z.507 - [Project] 193? torpedo-bomber Z-506B deriv.

Z.508 - 1936 trimotor parasol flying boat bomber, x 3*
 - Z.508: 3 x 840 hp I-F Asso XI R.C.40, span 30.00 m
 -- Z.508 was scaled-up, trimotor devel. of CANT Z.501
 -- * MM.322 (Oct 1936), MM.323 and MM.324 (1937-1938)
 -- http://www.airwar.ru/enc/flyboat/z508.html

Z.509 - 1937 trimotor mail/pax twin float seaplane, x 3
 - Z.509: 3 x 1,000 hp Fiat A.80 XI RC.41, span 28.32 m
 -- Z.509 was enlarged, heavier development of Z.506
 -- Built for Ala Littoria's transatlantic service, 4+8 pax

Z.510 - [Project] 1937 twin-engined recce-bomber floatplane
 - Z.510: Twin-engined devel. of trimotor Z.506B

Z.511 - 1940 4-engined transatlantic floatplane, x 1*
 - Z.511: 4 x 1,500 hp Piaggio P.XII RC.35, span 39.86 m
 - Z.511: [Project] 1937-39 LATI mail/cargo/pax seaplane
 - Z.511 1st prototype: 1940 maritime patrol floatplane
 -- Init. 4 x A-R 135 RC.35, Wright R-2600A (2B) planned
 - Z.511A: Militarized Z.511 (MM.386), various missions
 -- * 2nd prototype 80% complete, destr. at Monfalcone
 - BZ.305: [Project] Breda landplane vers. of Z.511
 -- http://www.airwar.ru/enc/sww2/z511.html

Z.512 - [Project] 1938 floatplane vers. of Z.1014 bomber
 - Z.512: 4 x 1,400 hp A-R 135 RC 18-cyl., span 36.00 m
 -- DGCA order Z.512 prototype constr'n, then cancelled
 -- http://www.alieuomini.it/files/anteprima/medium/crda_cantz1014,3162.jpg

Z-513 - (??) no details

Z.514 : [Project] 1939 floatplane vers. of Z.1018 bomber
 - Z.514:  2 x 1,350 hp Piaggio P.XII RC35, span 22.50 m
 -- Z.514 was to be Z.1018A fitted with Z.506 twin floats

Z-515: 1940 twin-engined, twin-float recce seaplane, x 11*
 - Z.515 prototype: Wooden flying mock-up, flew July 1940
 - Z.515 : 2 x 700 hp I-F Delta RC.35, span 22.50 m
 -- * Ordered into prod'n, many bombed on prod'n line
 - Z.515 ??: Planned Japanese licensed prod'n, not taken up
 -- 3v: http://italianaircraftofwwii.devhub.com/img/upload/sdger5yy46546.jpg

Z.516 - 1940 experimental twin-float recce-bomber, x 1
 - Z.516: Z.1007bis with Z.506 floats & twin tailplanes
 -- Z.516 (MM.23289) reconverted to Z.1007bis standards

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CANT 'Z.10xx' Designations - Filippo Zappata Land Planes

Z.1001 - (??) no details, frequent typo for Z-1007

Z.1002 - (??) no details, occassional typo for Z-1012

Z.1003 - [Project] 193? trimotor airliner concept
 - Z.1003: Landplane vers. of Z.506C floatplane

Z.1004 - [Project] 193? trimotor airliner concept
 - Z.1004: (??) no details

Z.1005 - [Project] 193? bomber similar to Z-1007*
 -- * Same 3 x I-F Asso XI.RC, same bomb load (500 kg)

Z.1006 - (??) no details

Z.1007 - 1937 trimotor monoplane medium bomber, x 660
 - Z.1007 Alcione: Mixed-constr., single/twin tailplanes
 - Z.1007 prototype: March 1937, 3 x 830 hp I-F Asso XI RC
 - Z.1007 series: Limited prod'n, Feb 1939-Oct 1939, x 34
 - Z.1007bis: 3 x 986 hp Piaggio P.XI RC.40, span 25.00 m
 -- Serie I-III: Single fin and rudder (Monoderiva)
 -- Serie IV-IV: Twin fins and rudders (Doppia deriva)
 - Z.1007ter (I): [Project] 3 x 1,400 hp A-R 135 radials*
 -- * First Z.1007ter was dropped in favour of Z.1018
 - Z.1007ter (II): 3 x 1,150 hp Piaggio P.XIX radials, x 35
 -- http://www.airwar.ru/enc/bww2/z1007.html

Z.1008 - [Project] Heavy bomber, Z-1007 deriv., no details
 - Z.1008: Project details led to 4-engined Z.1014 concept
 -- Occasional typo for Z.1018 (below)

Z.1009 - (??) no details

Z.1010 - 1935 high-wing light transport, 1+4, x 1 (I-ABLB)
 - Z.1010: 1 x 120 hp Alfa-Romeo 110-I 4-cyl, span 12.60 m
 -- Z.1010 built for 1935 Littorio Air Rally, aka 'Balilla'

Z.1011 - 1936 twin-engined low-wing 'heavy' bomber, x 6
 - Z.1011: Mixed constr., 2 x I-F Asso XI, span 25.00 m
 - Z.1011 prototype: 950 hp Gnome-Rhône Mistral Major RCs*
 - Z.1011 prototype: Re-engined with 820 hp I-F Asso XI RC
 - Z.1011 production: 2 x 840 hp I-F Asso XI RC.40 V-12s
 - Z.1011: [Project] High-altitude vers., radial engines**
 -- ** 2 x Piaggio P.XI RC.100 with two-speed compressors

Z.1012 - 1937 low-wing trimotor feederliner, 1+3-5, x 5
 - Z.1012: 2 x 120 hp A-R 110 or 185 hp A-R 115, span 15 m
 - Z.1012: [Project] (??) Single-engined carrier aircraft*
 -- * http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,28582.msg299687.html

Z.1013 - (??) no details

Z.1014 - [Project] 1938 low-winged 4-engined heavy bomber
 - Z.1014: 4 x 1,400 hp A-R 135 RC 18-cyl., span 36.00 m
 -- BGR (Bombardiere a Grande Raggio) winning competitor*
 -- * Decision overturned for cheaper/built Piaggio P.108
 -- http://www.alieuomini.it/files/anteprima/medium/crda_cantz1014,3162.jpg

Z.1015 - 1938-1939 trimotor mailplane/torpedo-bomber, x 1
 - Z.1015 : Init., 1939 long-range mailplane Z.1007 deriv.
 -- 2 x 1,000 hp Piaggio P.XI, later 1,500 P.XII RC.35
 - Z.1015 : Init., 1939 long-range mailplane Z.1007 deriv.
 - Z.1015 : 1940 'torpedo-bomber' conv., see Reply #1
 -- Z.1015B: [Project] Bomber vers., twin-tailplanes
 -- Z.1015B: 3 x 1,550 hp A-R 135 RC.32s, span 24.80 m
 -- http://www.airwar.ru/enc/cww2/z1015.html
 -- http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/cww2/z1015/z1015-3.jpg
 -- http://aviadejavu.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft32281.htm
 -- http://aviadejavu.ru/Images6/AI/AI77-11/22-2.jpg

Z.1016 - [Project] 1938 single-engined long-range record flight concept*
 - Z.1016: Z.1007 derivative, airframe similar to sole trimotor Z.1015
 -- * Intended to challenge record by British Vickers Wellesley

Z.1017 - [Project] ?? torpedo-bomber developed from Z-1015

Z.1018 - Leone, 1939 twin-engined medium bomber,* x 15-17
 -- * Also proposed as torpedo-bomber & heavy nightfighter
 - Z.1018: 2 x 1,350 hp Piaggio P.XII RC35, span 22.50 m
 - Z.1018 prototype: MM.467, considered flying mock-up
 - Z.1018 w/ DB 601 : [Project] July 1939 request by RA
 - Z.1018A: pre-prod'n (MM.24290-24299), 1 alum., 9 wood
 - Z.1018L: 'Legno', altern. desig. for 9 x wood Z.1018A
 - Z.1018M: Leone I prod'n vers., metal const., x 102**
 -- ** Ordered (MM.24824-24925 plus MM.25162 & MM.25163)
 -- MM.24824 compl. as heavy nightfighter, FuG 202 radar
 -- MM.24826 compl. as torpedo-bomber, Argo naval radar
 - Z.514 : [Project] Floatplane vers., Z.506 twin floats
 -- 3v: http://aviarmor.net/aww2/_photo_aircraft/f_ita/cant_z1018/z1018_d1.jpg
 Leoni variants proposed after Zappata's move to Breda
 - BZ.301: [Project] Leone II high-altitude bomber, span 24.00 m
 - BZ.302: [Project] High-altitude heavy fighter, span ?? m
 - BZ.303: [Project] Leone III multirole a/c,*** span 20.70 m
 -- *** Heavy nightfighter (8x 20mm MG 151) or torpedo-bomber
 -- BZ.303 bis: [Project] variant with 2 x DB 603 engines
 - BZ.304: [Project] Anti-tank vers. w/ large-calibre gun

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Re: CANT and CRDA list
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2017, 01:15:14 pm »
Amazing work my dear Apophenia.

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Re: CANT and CRDA list
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2018, 03:42:21 pm »
Dear Boys & Girls, are there any published drawings and photographs of the Z.516 prototype available please?

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Re: CANT and CRDA list
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2018, 04:29:28 am »
Dear Boys & Girls, are there any published drawings and photographs of the Z.516 prototype available please?

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1/72 Scale Choroszy Modelbud CANT Z.504 Resin Model Built In 2017...
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Re: CANT and CRDA list
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2018, 06:27:31 am »
Amazing Model Retired In Kalifornia,

but what was it ?.

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Re: CANT and CRDA list
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2018, 08:05:08 am »
Amazing Model Retired In Kalifornia, but what was it?


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Re: CANT and CRDA list
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2018, 08:42:54 am »
Thanks.

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Re: CANT and CRDA list
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2018, 08:14:05 am »
From L'Aeronautique 1927-8,

what was this (right one) ?.