US Supersonic Transport (SST) Program 1960-1971

[Scott Kenny]

A friend in Seattle got this yesterday. The thing is like 3m long and very heavy. Unfortunately the wings are missing.
Could be a Boeing in house made, or done by Pacmin for Boeing according to someone how knows.
From the small stakes on the nose and the tailplane shape, looks like a 1968-69 config.
Will make more pictures in Sept.

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I think those are the very front of the ogival wings.

 

[galgot]

A big L-2000 model. Surprisingly quite light considering the size.

 

[uk 75]

Pacmin (Pacific Miniatures) made Boeing models and Precise/Topping did some of the Lockheed.
Google Pacmin Boeing SST and Topping Lockheed 2000 from time to time and you will find models ranging from nine inches to nine foot

 

[blackkite]

Thanks galgot-san‼︎ What a incredible model it is.
Fuselage bottom shape is quite impressive and very beautiful.
Supersonic area rule?

 

[blackkite]

I can't find ventral fin in this model.

 

[galgot]

I can't find ventral fin in this model.

True ! didn't noticed it. Will check tomorrow what is that white area under the tail, maybe painting after some damage...

 

[galgot]

I can't find ventral fin in this model.

Hi Blackkite San, checked the L-2000 model. indeed it must have had the ventral fin originally but was damaged at some point, that place being repainted :



Today, had the chance to visit the 2707-300 mockup nose at Museum of Flight Restoration Center at Everett.
Will post only one picture of it cause there are already tons of the thing online. Next to it, one can notice these nice nose and tail 2707-200 cutaway models. There's a few pictures of these online too :





I was very lucky to be shown the stuff they normally don't show to visitors, and the rest of that cutaway model exists, and it's huge.
All in pieces, and damaged, but apparently all is there. Hundreds of pieces on the floor and several shelves. One of their guys had started restoring it (these nose and tail) but work have been halted for now :









I believe this model was meant to fixed on a wall or some kind of rig by the starboard wing root, only the whole fuselage and port wing/tail being built. I couldn't find the engines, but there was unopened boxes on the shelves, so they may have been in there.




That's for now.

 

[blackkite]

Thanks galgot-san.
Amazing

 

[Scott Kenny]

It still exists!!!! *squeee*!!!!

And they're restoring it!

*happy dance*

 

[martinbayer]

Cockup mockup?

 

[aim9xray]

Cockup mockpit.

 

[galgot]

Follow up :

View: https://youtu.be/rdZSQ1BLV28

Length is 14.4' - 4.38 m. This is the huge in house 2707-300 model fuselage I posted about earlier. All wood, obviously took some beatup but still beautiful. Incredibly, someone at the Restoration Center at Everett knew the guy who built it for Boeing.
Thing going to be done first is having a stand made for it.















Voilà... I have picts of other SST related stuff, but not as interesting and already seen. Will post later maybe.

 

[blackkite]

Sharp shape

 

[martinbayer]

I hope some competent, experienced professional can be found to replace the wings and engines - ahem, *urgently* paging Dr. Merriman...

 

[Luci]

Hello, first time posting but does anyone have studies citing good performance metrics for the JTF-17, TJ70A4 or any of the other non-GE American SST engines? Also looking for any data on the Olympus 593 Mk.610+25% proposed for Concorde B. I'm trying to make realistic configs for Kerbal Space Program RP-1 for anyone wondering

Thanks!

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

 

[_JDNash]

Hi, would anyone happen to have any photos of the JTF-17 in it's engine mount for the 2707? all the images I've found so far have the mock up for the L2000, with only one supposedly being for the 2707.

 

[hesham]

From Interavia 1960.

 

[hesham]

From Interavia 1959

 

[hesham]

From Interavia 1959

 

[KiloMike04]

Hi!

What is this book?

 

[hesham]

From Interavia 1961

 

[hesham]

From Interavia 1962

 

[martinbayer]

Sic transit gloria mundi.

 

[CaseyKnight]

Length is 14.4' - 4.38 m. This is the huge in house 2707-300 model fuselage I posted about earlier. All wood, obviously took some beatup but still beautiful. Incredibly, someone at the Restoration Center at Everett knew the guy who built it for Boeing.

Wow, 1/20 scale!

 

[martinbayer]

Wow, 1/20 scale!

Ah, the beauty of non functional scale what if models...

 

[hesham]

From Interavia 1964/3

 

[hesham]

From Interavia 1969

 

[blackkite]

Hi! SCAT-15F patent.

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

https://forums.x-plane.org/files/file/93548-boeing-2707-300-sst/?&page=2

 

[blackkite]

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[blackkite]

Hi
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19940021652/downloads/19940021652.pdf

North American Aviation SST’s: Men and their toys (IV).

In the 1960s the arrival of the supersonic transport (SST) was seen as a logical conclusion. That urge concretized in the development and construction of two supersonic airliners: the Anglo-French …

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[blackkite]

Hi!

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Lockheed SST design evolution.
Not same scale.

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Boeing 733 and Lockheed L-2000 SST large wind tunnel test model.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9BjJaDlOaQ

 

[blackkite]

Hi! AIR FORCE magazine May 1961.

 

[landerso47]

Yeah, I have a PDF of the 2707-300 General Characteristics handbook (pretty sure I got it from this thread!), but it doesn't show a seating layout for the 321pax version. Just that basically the entire fuselage would be different between that version and the 234pax arrangement.

That PDF does show seating for the 298pax all-tourist class. Mostly 3+3, with 3+2 at the ends.

Yes I answer late but it's rude not to replyLOL. Here is the 321 pax layout.

 

[Scott Kenny]

Yes I answer late but it's rude not to replyLOL. Here is the 321 pax layout.

Thank you!