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Tucker Aviation XP-57

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From "U.S. Experimental & Prototype Aircraft Projects
Fighters 1939-45"
by Bill Norton
Speciality Press
2008
 

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Thank you very much, Bailey, really very interesting!

Yes Archipeppe, I think so.
 

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Tucker Aircraft Co., Detroit.

No idea if he was the same Mr. Tucker...
 

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Preston Tucker, of Tucker Automobile fame, was the putative designer of the XP-57.

The Tucker company made aircraft turrets and I don't know what else during WW2.
 

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In case you never watched Francis Ford Coppola's movie "Tucker", with Jeff Bridges playing the main part, it is absolute must seeing. The soundtrack by Joe Jackson is also excellent, the cameo by Howard Hughes and his H-4 Hercules is a pure moment of joy... And so are all the surviving Tucker cars (46 out of 50 built) that gather for the film's final scene...). Unfortunately there is no mention in the movie that Tucker ever designed an aircraft as such.

Almost forgot: that's the only movie directed by "Francis Coppola", with no "Ford" in between. The Ford company was largely responsible for Tucker's demise, though there is no actual mention of it in the movie. Coppola probably saw this as a subtle hint of that fact...
 

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Look what I found:



Copyright: Choroszy Modelbud

This is the P.Z.L. 62, a polish fighter project. It looks a bit like the Tucker project, doesn't it?
 

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I think the XP-57 was even smaller
 

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And the XP-57 has an engine behind the cockpit, while the PZL-62 had it classic-mounted. But surprisingly, the whole appearance is really quite similar!
 

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Stargazer2006 said:
In case you never watched Francis Ford Coppola's movie "Tucker", with Jeff Bridges playing the main part, it is absolute must seeing. The soundtrack by Joe Jackson is also excellent, the cameo by Howard Hughes and his H-4 Hercules is a pure moment of joy... And so are all the surviving Tucker cars (46 out of 50 built) that gather for the film's final scene...). Unfortunately there is no mention in the movie that Tucker ever designed an aircraft as such.

Almost forgot: that's the only movie directed by "Francis Coppola", with no "Ford" in between. The Ford company was largely responsible for Tucker's demise, though there is no actual mention of it in the movie. Coppola probably saw this as a subtle hint of that fact...

Just for the record, there is no proof that any of the "Big Three" conspired against Tucker and his "Torpedo". After the war, steel was allocated to firms based on their war production -- and Tucker's turrets were certainly less than the amount of aircraft built by GM and Ford and the tanks by Chrysler. Besides, with millions of Americans demanding new cars post-WWII, it is highly unlikely that the "Big Three" perceived Tucker -- and his unmechanized assembly line -- as a threat.

Still, I agree that the movie has an amzing soundtrack, and it is wonderful to see all those Torpedos together on film. BTW, the crash sequences were performed with Torpedo-nose Studabakers.
 

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At best, Tucker was a visionary who had no idea how costly the automotive business is. In addition he wasted what little funds he had.

Alex Tremulis worked briefly as a consultant for Tucker Motors, essentially as a B team stylist to provide an alternate view to the in-house styling department. He wrote a book about it, and it is fascinating.
 

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From NTRS;
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[/size]The Tucker XP-57, proposed in 1940, weighed 3000 pounds loaded. The engine was located behind the pilot with the propeller drive shaft passing between the pilot's legs. With a fully loaded wing loading of 25 psf, the airplane was expected to be highly maneuverable but it was never completed


http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19830018514_1983018514.pdf
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_Tucker here who was behind the Tucker Aviation !
 

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I can only encourage anyone with an interest in either automotive history, great entrepreneurs, Francis Ford Coppola, Joe Jackson music, Howard Hughes or Jeff Bridges (not necessarily in that order) to watch the 1989 movie Tucker. Absolutely brilliant as far as I'm concerned (but don't look for any mention of the XP-57 in it, there's none!). As a footnote, this is the only movie where Coppola dropped the "Ford" in his name, being credited as plain "Francis Coppola". It is said that this was his own silent way of bashing the Ford company without ever mentioning it by name in the movie (Ford, among other misdeeds, made sure to that Tucker's projects failed).
 

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