Quote one post…just one where I said anything “outrageous”. Did I lie? Did I make something up?
You have a reputation of going into thread and calling people nasty names. If I’m not mistaken it was you that got a bunch of your posts deleted a few weeks ago after you started raging and calling me nasty names and then started talking about politics and ethnicity…when in doubt act like a man child…
The funny thing is a called you out and told you to bring facts and the more i pressed you the more angry you got despite you staring everything.
Su-57 as 5th gen stealth fighter is going through IOC phase.There is about 30 operational fighters so far. Until the end of 2027 (as it is planed) ,there will be 72 operational in the three fighter aviation regiments. 72 only ? So what ,76 were ordered so far.
As it was described in one article,Su-57 ( PAK-FA/T-50) had/ has three different time phases of its
existence so far. First ten years ( 2000-2010) was R/D phase,then second decade or period from 2010 until 2020 was testing phase.From 2020 ,Su-57 is in serial production and operational use in the VKS.
Combat experience so far?
There is no 5th gen stealth fighter in the world that can compare with Su-57 in the domain of the real combat experience,that is the fact and the combat experience for him began on Feb.2018.
Combat potential?
Even with AL-41F-1 engines,real combat ( energy/kinetic) potential is huge and there is one video from the Akhtubinsk air base ( 929 GLITs of the RF MoD) where two test pilots demonstrated sim. dog-fight.When Su-35S test pilot asked Su-57 test pilot whether he was used Full AB through climbing, his answer was negative,he used only MP and Min AB mode.Su-35S pilot smiled and said that it is much more powerful.With AL-51F it will be more powerful ( in climbing,turning ,maneuvering indeed).
Another very important detail is that Su-57 possess in his combat arsenal more AAM's than any other 5th gen stealth fighter.Even six new AAM's were developed only for the Su-57: Products 171-1, 180,270,300M,760 and 810.There is no 5th gen stealth fighter in the world which can carry so big/heavy/long-range CM/ARM/ASM in the FWC ( fuselage weapon compartments ) as Su-57 can .These are also facts .
Su-57 is also the cheapest 5th gen stealth fighter because its production cost is only about 35 mil $. So for the only 35 mil $ ,VKS receives most sophisticated 5th gen stealth fighter in the world. For comparison, production cost of the F-35 is almost three times bigger.
Comparisons like, there is hundreds and hundreds ( hundred plus F-22A's) or thousands of F-35's out there for me mean nothing.USAF/NATO will never attack RF with those hundreds or thousands of 5th gen stealth fighters, we all know why.
The Su-57 is a product of Russian thinking and philosophy of the fighter aviation development, i.e. the fighter of the future ,described as PAK-FA of course.
Let's keep in mind that the lifespan of a Su-57 could last as long as 40-50 years (as announced), which means that fighters produced in the 2020-2030 period could be operational there until 2060/2070-2070/2080.
''“The Su-57 platform was created with a lifespan of 40 to 50 years. It features an open architecture, allowing for the integration of a wide range of technologies with minimal changes to the baseline design,” Badekha said. 13. 4. 2025.''
There is a plenty of time for this fighter,there will be no rush for something new.They already have two flying prototypes of the Su-57M ( 058 and 511 blue) were test pilots regularly perform test flights without any participation from the very start at the tarmac , take-off, flight until landing and taxiing to the same tarmac.
The entire task is performed in the automatic mode w/o any action of the pilot at all (as Sukhoi chief test pilot Sergey Bogdan said in one interview).
On the other side,we can write about that the number of the operational is to low or will be low.Where are those AL-51F so far? Where is that or that ? As wrote before, there is plenty of time for this new fighter.
Maybe Su-57 is not a fighter ahead of his time( many analysts said it is), but that time works for him, that's certainly a reality.
Интервью с настоящей легендой российской авиации. Шеф-пилот ОКБ Сухого Сергей Богдан об истребителе Су-57, своей популярности в Китае и противостоянии российских и западных истребителей.
The Su-57 fifth generation fighter has been equipped with hypersonic weapons, according to the Chief of the Main Staff and First Deputy Commander in Chief of the Russian
militarywatchmagazine.com
The author of the article "Su-57 Gains New Hypersonic Strike Capability: Why the Zircon Mach 9+ Missile Could be a Game Changer" refers to an interview with the deputy commander of the Russian Aerospace Forces, Lieutenant General Aleksandr Maksimcev, published in "Krasnaja Zvezda". In it, the senior officer states that "the delivery rates of fifth-generation Su-57 aircraft are being accelerated with modern means of air attack and hypersonic weapons". However, Aleksandr Maksimcev does not mention the "Tsirkon" at all.
I think rumor has it there will be one in the future, it would make sense for the naval aviation units of the Russian Navy. But currently there is no indication that such a system exists.
If it exists, I doubt it will be used on the Su-57. The missile won't fit into the IWBs and thus negates the need to use a stealth fighter for it's delivery, might as well use a MiG-31 or Su-30/34 for this. If Su-57 gets adopted by the Russian Naval Aviation, I assume if it will be used in an anti-ship role it will utilize an adapted AShM version of the existing Kh-69 it's known to utilize.
Zircon is mostly of interest for the Gorshkovs, Yasens and Admiral Nakhimov right now, then coastel defense systems like the one in Crimea, then modernized Oscars and other older vessels undergoing modernization and way down the line comes the air launched capability for the naval aviation. At least based on how I understand the Russian Navy and the alleged timeline we have so far of its tests, integration and usage. That understanding might not be 100% and I'm grateful for any correction from people with more expertise.
A few years ago, the creation of a hypersonic missile for internal placement was announced for the Su-57.
A hypersonic missile refers to a rocket with an air-jet engine.
Because it's the initial order, expect a big additional order once Su-57M has become operational. 76 is definitely not the final fleet size, that's more or less certain.
A few years ago, the creation of a hypersonic missile for internal placement was announced for the Su-57.
A hypersonic missile refers to a rocket with an air-jet engine.
Technically the Su-57 already uses a missile that can reach hypersonic speeds, the R-37M. Izdeliye 810 will succeed that particular missile. I have my doubts though about seeing a hypersonic ALCM for the Su-57 any time soon.
Such a weapon, like a theorized air launched Zircon, would see it's way on Tu-22M3s, MiG-31s and Su-30SM/Su-34M first. Later down the line possibly Tu-160M/M2 and further down the line PAK DA/Tu-XXX.
Such a weapon, like a theorized air launched Zircon, would see it's way on Tu-22M3s, MiG-31s and Su-30SM/Su-34M first. Later down the line possibly Tu-160M/M2 and further down the line PAK DA/Tu-XXX.
Su-57 came with full array of next generation weapons made for it specifically, in a package.
Thus no, if only from administrative point of view, it's in fact the opposite. Legacy platforms don't get such comprehensive treatment.
Moreover, there are some indications something very fast was already was used a2g at least once in combat, in late spring.
If it exists, I doubt it will be used on the Su-57. The missile won't fit into the IWBs and thus negates the need to use a stealth fighter for it's delivery, might as well use a MiG-31 or Su-30/34 for this.
The Su-57 fifth generation fighter has been equipped with hypersonic weapons, according to the Chief of the Main Staff and First Deputy Commander in Chief of the Russian
militarywatchmagazine.com
The author of the article "Su-57 Gains New Hypersonic Strike Capability: Why the Zircon Mach 9+ Missile Could be a Game Changer" refers to an interview with the deputy commander of the Russian Aerospace Forces, Lieutenant General Aleksandr Maksimcev, published in "Krasnaja Zvezda". In it, the senior officer states that "the delivery rates of fifth-generation Su-57 aircraft are being accelerated with modern means of air attack and hypersonic weapons". However, Aleksandr Maksimcev does not mention the "Tsirkon" at all.
The Su-57 fifth generation fighter has been equipped with hypersonic weapons, according to the Chief of the Main Staff and First Deputy Commander in Chief of the Russian
militarywatchmagazine.com
The author of the article "Su-57 Gains New Hypersonic Strike Capability: Why the Zircon Mach 9+ Missile Could be a Game Changer" refers to an interview with the deputy commander of the Russian Aerospace Forces, Lieutenant General Aleksandr Maksimcev, published in "Krasnaja Zvezda". In it, the senior officer states that "the delivery rates of fifth-generation Su-57 aircraft are being accelerated with modern means of air attack and hypersonic weapons". However, Aleksandr Maksimcev does not mention the "Tsirkon" at all.
Do we really need to start a new thread for each stupid report and militarywatchmagazine is one of the most stupid sites almost like Bulgarian-BS.com!?
Btw, Su-57 has several operational hypersonic missiles in its arsenal :
Izd. 810/R-97 as very long-range AAM and Kh-58UShK-TP as ARM.
About that new hypersonic ASM ,be aware on designation Kh-47M2 , 'cause that is not the real military designation for the so-called 'Dagger' from the MiG-31K.
Of course ,we must keep on mind that all missiles intended for the two FWC's must have dimensions : 4.2m x 0.4m x 0.4m.
It seems new Su-57 Serial assembly line is with the Su-35S. Is Su-57 experiencing an increase in quantity? Hmm they are now covering the sensitive parts on the Su-57 fuselage this video upload on 30 july 2025
It seems new Su-57 Serial assembly line is with the Su-35S. Is Su-57 experiencing an increase in quantity? Hmm they are now covering the sensitive parts on the Su-57 fuselage this video upload on 30 july 2025
If it is right that until the end of 2024 they produced 28 Su-57's ( and are operational), than must be produced 48 more until the end of 2027.We already saw only one batch ( 2 planes) during 2025.
The rate of delivery of fifth-generation Su-57 aircraft with modern air-launched weapons and hypersonic weapons is increasing. Also, new models of air-launched weapons are being delivered, allowing for a significant increase in the range of destruction of ground (sea) and air targets.
The mention is of hypersonic weapons only, and depending on how you stretch the definition, this could apply to existing known weapons.
Typically hypersonic means Mach 5+ but Mach 4+ is also called hypersonic in some places. R-37M is technically hypersonic by both definitions when launched at sufficiently high speed by its launch platform.
The old AIM-54 Phoenix could hit Mach 4.3. Therefore, the quote says nothing interesting at all, as R-37M integration is well known.
Really, "hypersonic" typically encompassed some form of advanced air-breathing scramjet propulsion. Mach 5 missiles using rocket motors are somewhat outside this definition.
Expansion of the production facilities was always something that they worked on, or that was said they were looking forward to.
Now, if the rumors are true and Algeria picked up the Su-57E (given their Su-35E and Su-34ME purchase I don't think it's too unlikely tbh), then the production facilities would have to expand anyways in order to:
> assemble the Algerian Su-57s
> assemble the Russian Su-57s
> and transitioning and subsequently increasing capacity for the Su-57M, which is the full-fat Su-57
In recent days the topic of the YF-23 has resurfaced on various discussion platforms in connection with Northrop’s 6th Gen F/A-XX render and also after an interview with Darold Cummings about possible modifications to the F-35.
I can’t help it, but it once again brings to mind the genius of the T-50 design — considering the concept itself, its potential, possible modifications, availability of solutions, and other aspects.
We can look forward not only to the Su-57M, but also to all the future versions we have no idea about yet.
-Hypersonic missile, a hypersonic missile can be anything from air to ground and air to air. We already know they had plans for air to ground and air to air versions from multiple online sources like 100 times.
-Russian journo is quoting military watch magazine for reference on what they think their own missile might be
Reason I didn't even bother wanting to post it here because it doesn't even qualify as a news source.
If Tsirkon is a development of the AS-X-21/Kh-90 Gela, as reported, then an air-launched version should definitely be feasible. OTOH that was sized for the Tu-160, and occupied the entire weapon bay.
Yes, they're aerodynamically very different, I was presuming the 'development of' related primarily to the scramjet. But if you can repackage it one way (from air to sea launched), then you can probably repackage it the other.
Yes, they're aerodynamically very different, I was presuming the 'development of' related primarily to the scramjet. But if you can repackage it one way (from air to sea launched), then you can probably repackage it the other.
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