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Strategic Capabilities Office - Hypervelocity Gun Weapon - Missile Defense

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From Inside Defense (paywall)

DOD seeking $1.5B for SCO in FY-19, including $438M for seven new projects

The Strategic Capabilities Office is seeking nearly $1.5 billion in fiscal year 2019 -- an increase of more than 20 percent over FY-18 -- to develop new and surprising ways of using existing technology to bolster conventional deterrence against China and Russia.
 

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https://thediplomat.com/2018/02/revealed-the-details-of-chinas-latest-hit-to-kill-interceptor-test/

While most of the stuff is known, there are some tidbits new to me in the text above. According to them, it's a "larger than sm-3" missile with capabilities "similar to sm-3", called dn-3.
 

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totoro said:
https://thediplomat.com/2018/02/revealed-the-details-of-chinas-latest-hit-to-kill-interceptor-test/

While most of the stuff is known, there are some tidbits new to me in the text above. According to them, it's a "larger than sm-3" missile with capabilities "similar to sm-3", called dn-3.
Wrong thread..
 

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bobbymike said:
From Inside Defense (paywall)

DOD seeking $1.5B for SCO in FY-19, including $438M for seven new projects

The Strategic Capabilities Office is seeking nearly $1.5 billion in fiscal year 2019 -- an increase of more than 20 percent over FY-18 -- to develop new and surprising ways of using existing technology to bolster conventional deterrence against China and Russia.
Here is the OSD budget with most of those SCO programs mentioned in the article -

https://www.scribd.com/document/372121300/Dodfy19-Osd
 

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I guess the implication is that the HVP doesn't have an active seeker so the interferometric radars provide the necessary angular resolution for
some command guided or midcourse update scheme. We've seen similar schemes before.


Fire control radar interferometer test bed for Hypervelocity Terminal Defense Fire Control

Three receive antennas on vertices of a 10 meter baseline equilateral triangle provides measurement accuracy required to command guide gun launched projectile interceptors to direct hit-to- kill impact of incoming ballistic missile targets.

 

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Also, written testimony submitted by James Guerts, assistant Navy secretary for acquisition, offers the first confirmation of the service’s third hypersonic-weapon development program, joining the anti-air Hypervelocity Projectile in development by the Strategic Capabilities Office and the intermediate-range Conventional Prompt Strike (CPS) program.

 

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thinkin the anti-air Hypervelocity Projectile will still not be launced from the current EMRGs.
 

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thinkin the anti-air Hypervelocity Projectile will still not be launced from the current EMRGs.
EMRG? AFAIK there are no plans to field either the GA or BAE design. (IMO they should field both and wring them out.)
 

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Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Acquisition Will Roper told reporters during the same briefing that one of the exercise’s big successes was the shoot-down by a novel hypervelocity projectile of one of the surrogate cruise missiles, played by BQM-167 target drones flying over White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. The small projectile, which can fly at Mach 5, was developed by the Navy and the Army, he said, and was launched from an Army M109 Paladin-based 155mm howitzer and a Navy deck gun during the demo.


maybe not connected, but:


its radar like by scalled EAPS sensor

 
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The small projectile, which can fly at Mach 5, was developed by the Navy and the Army, he said, and was launched from an Army M109 Paladin-based 155mm howitzer
Which is another reason why the autoloader for ERCA is really important.
 

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Does anyone know of any information on the effective coverage area of this projectile out of various guns against various targets? Without it, it is hard to compare it to SAMs.

If there is nothing public it might be possible to calculate an reasonably accurate estimate given the system is under many constraints.
 

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A shame the M110 & M107 are no longer in service. Kinda makes you wonder why they bothered using one in this test, or developing a projectile for it. (The M110 in this case.)
The ASAF said the projectiles were fired from an Army M109 and a Navy gun in the test, but I don't see a Mk 45 turret anywhere. I suspect that what looks like an M110 here is actually just a recycled chassis with Navy 127mm ordnance for ballistic testing.
 

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A shame the M110 & M107 are no longer in service. Kinda makes you wonder why they bothered using one in this test, or developing a projectile for it. (The M110 in this case.)
The ASAF said the projectiles were fired from an Army M109 and a Navy gun in the test, but I don't see a Mk 45 turret anywhere. I suspect that what looks like an M110 here is actually just a recycled chassis with Navy 127mm ordnance for ballistic testing.

Yeah there seems to be some kind of attachment towards the tip of both barrels. Thought it was the M110s muzzle brake.
 

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A shame the M110 & M107 are no longer in service. Kinda makes you wonder why they bothered using one in this test, or developing a projectile for it. (The M110 in this case.)
The ASAF said the projectiles were fired from an Army M109 and a Navy gun in the test, but I don't see a Mk 45 turret anywhere. I suspect that what looks like an M110 here is actually just a recycled chassis with Navy 127mm ordnance for ballistic testing.

Yeah there seems to be some kind of attachment towards the tip of both barrels. Thought it was the M110s muzzle brake.
Thats defiantly not a Standard M110, the Breech is total different to all the ones I have seen for one. It looks more like a sliding breech instead of the standard screw breech. And the Recoil mechanisms look different as well.

What it maybe a second 155 long barrel that they slap on the M110 chasis that they have floating around White Sands and the Navy gun is on that stand you can see at about 1 minute 50 seconds and 3 minutes in.

There are plans of replacing the towed M777 barrels with this tube as well, so they could be using the M110 to test out the barrel holders and recoil mechanism for that. Which is handly since towing a barrel that long around will be a PITA.
 

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Thats defiantly not a Standard M110, the Breech is total different to all the ones I have seen for one. It looks more like a sliding breech instead of the standard screw breech. And the Recoil mechanisms look different as well.

What it maybe a second 155 long barrel that they slap on the M110 chasis that they have floating around White Sands and the Navy gun is on that stand you can see at about 1 minute 50 seconds and 3 minutes in.
You're right, I see the Navy gun on that platform now.

The chassis seen right at the beginning of the video is labeled AGS. I wonder if it's the ordnance testbed for the Navy 155mm Advanced Gun System. They might still have it left over after LRLAP development ended. From 2010:

Under this test phase, Lockheed Martin and BAE plan to fire a total of 25 LRLAP rounds at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico.

Those rounds will be shot from an Advanced Gun System (AGS) tube mounted on a M110 8-inch howitzer chassis, a Lockheed Martin official told Defense Daily during the same interview. BAE builds AGS which is being developed for DDG-1000.
I think we see this same gun with and without that muzzle fitting; the chassis at ~43 seconds is also marked AGS but lacks those big rings around the muzzle. The Navy gun in some shots also has a new muzzle fitting, as does Howitzer Test Bed-VIII (the long-tube M109). Probably some sort of inductive round setter or velocity measuring system associate with HVP.
 
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Thats defiantly not a Standard M110, the Breech is total different to all the ones I have seen for one. It looks more like a sliding breech instead of the standard screw breech. And the Recoil mechanisms look different as well.

What it maybe a second 155 long barrel that they slap on the M110 chasis that they have floating around White Sands and the Navy gun is on that stand you can see at about 1 minute 50 seconds and 3 minutes in.
You're right, I see the Navy gun on that platform now.

The chassis seen right at the beginning of the video is labeled AGS. I wonder if it's the ordnance testbed for the Navy 155mm Advanced Gun System. They might still have it left over after LRLAP development ended. From 2010:

Under this test phase, Lockheed Martin and BAE plan to fire a total of 25 LRLAP rounds at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico.

Those rounds will be shot from an Advanced Gun System (AGS) tube mounted on a M110 8-inch howitzer chassis, a Lockheed Martin official told Defense Daily during the same interview. BAE builds AGS which is being developed for DDG-1000.
I think we see this same gun with and without that muzzle fitting; the chassis at ~43 seconds is also marked AGS but lacks those big rings around the muzzle. The Navy gun in some shots also has a new muzzle fitting, as does Howitzer Test Bed-VIII (the long-tube M109). Probably some sort of inductive round setter or velocity measuring system associate with HVP.
lrlap-test.png

View: https://youtu.be/VXyH1OYuyIw?t=92
 

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Thats defiantly not a Standard M110, the Breech is total different to all the ones I have seen for one. It looks more like a sliding breech instead of the standard screw breech. And the Recoil mechanisms look different as well.

What it maybe a second 155 long barrel that they slap on the M110 chasis that they have floating around White Sands and the Navy gun is on that stand you can see at about 1 minute 50 seconds and 3 minutes in.
You're right, I see the Navy gun on that platform now.

The chassis seen right at the beginning of the video is labeled AGS. I wonder if it's the ordnance testbed for the Navy 155mm Advanced Gun System. They might still have it left over after LRLAP development ended. From 2010:

Under this test phase, Lockheed Martin and BAE plan to fire a total of 25 LRLAP rounds at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico.

Those rounds will be shot from an Advanced Gun System (AGS) tube mounted on a M110 8-inch howitzer chassis, a Lockheed Martin official told Defense Daily during the same interview. BAE builds AGS which is being developed for DDG-1000.
I think we see this same gun with and without that muzzle fitting; the chassis at ~43 seconds is also marked AGS but lacks those big rings around the muzzle. The Navy gun in some shots also has a new muzzle fitting, as does Howitzer Test Bed-VIII (the long-tube M109). Probably some sort of inductive round setter or velocity measuring system associate with HVP.
Definitely the AGS tester, BAE Land (formerly UD) never throws anything like that away.
 
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