Spanish unbuilt naval projects

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I've been doing a report on the pattern of the high seas, the navy and I was thinking about the possible numbers that had no physical vessels (projects not left the drawing tables).

I've always missed the lack of paragraph F-90, possibly a replacement for the Discovery and the NFR-90. Also the draft of the Kidd class DDG 70s, Bazan carrier proyect CVL, Bloinstein FFLs, the BES-50 PCF and BES-95 FFL draft ship surface action of NATO in the 80s, the 90s of AFCon, projects FFL Super-Discovery The F110 and probably others who were in the dark.

Submarines and patruyeras, no idea, but I doubt that there was something there. Amphibians in the draft of the LCAC VAC-4 and VAC-36
 
I'll post something about this topic later
 
BSAC 200 and 220 CVL designs discussed here:

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1083.0.html
 
evolution from US SCS to Spanish Principe de Asturias here:

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1231.0.html
 
Santa Maria class Frigate (home build mod OHP) has the F-80 class, F-90 has no ships asigned (NFR-90?) , F-100 has Alvaro de Bazan class. F-110 has hipotetical, not data for now

The Super Discovery class has a draft proyect to build a big versions of F-30 Discovery (Descubierta) class, with a 100mm or 155mm main cannon vs 76mm OTO melara, and a stern Helicopter Deck, no Hangar facility.
 
Frigate mistery solved here (excellent info):

http://www.militar.org.ua/foro/f-90-y-otros-proyectos-inconclusos-t19050.html
 
Not sure if this is the right thread, but I couldn't find a specific Bazan thread.


Spain via Bazan bid for the South African Navy requirement eventually fullfilled by the Germans.


From AAFJ March and August 1998, described as a 3000 ton development of the earlier Spanish submission to the South African Navy (SAN) in 1994.
 

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Hi,
One issue as I understand it with CATOBAR designs is that they there are not alot of catapult and arrestor systems currently in production to choose from and those that are currently available take up a lot of flight deck space. In particular, in the West I think that the only catapult systems currently in production are the US EMALS system, though as I understand it other countries have been looking into electromechanical systems, though I don't know how close to operational those systems would be. Though I guess that since the older C13 conventional steam catapults are not too long out of production and since they are still in use on older supercarriers perhaps it may also be possible to obtain some of them, perhaps from a recently decommissioned older steam ship.

As for arrestor gear I believe that the situation is similar with the US AEG system being the one currently in service while the Mk 7 )or was it the Mk 14) is still in service on older ships.

Both of these type systems take up a lot of deck space and I believe that the BSAC 200 and BSAC 220 designs were too small to field them, while I think I saw somewhere that something similar in size to the Charles de Gaulle is about the smallest that you could go with the current/recent US type systems.
 

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