Sombold So 344 and other projects from Sombold

[moin1900]

Hi everybody

I am searching for every Information about the Sombold So 344
The Sombold So 344 should be used against the allied Bomberformations with its 400kg Warhead
There is a source that says the Warhead is a anti-aircraft version of the Fritz-X the so called Fritz-Z
The Sombold So344 should be also used against Ships but with different Warhead ?
Is that Right and are there any Pictures of it ?
Some Sombold ideas i have heard about:
the so called "Schleuderstart","Einradfahrwerk" and the "Zerlegbares Flugzeug zur Pilotenrettung"
Is there anybody who knows more about these Projects ?

Here are my sources
http://www.luft46.com/misc/so344.html
http://www.combatsim.com/memb123/htm/2002/05/swotl5/
http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/STOCKEL%20RAMMSCHUSSJAGER.htm (Rammschussjäger)

Thanks in advance

 

[flateric]

AF, we appreciate you wish to help, but we have strong rules...

 

[AF]

AF, we appreciate you wish to help, but we have strong rules...

Now I hope it is OK.

Here is my find to Stockel Rammschussjäger - powered by mixed propulsion system (solid rockets/ stockel ramjet). It was planned for ramming attacks (and it had 200Kg of explosives in nose) - pilot could eject or stay in plane...span - 7m, length 7,2m, max. speed 1000km/h

 

[Antonio]

Much better like this, many thanks

 

[Jemiba]

Just a clue : You shouldn't google for "Rammschussjäger" or "Totrammjäger",
both names sound very much like babelfish translations and no german engineer
would have given them to his creations, unless he had consumed several litres
of the good german beer ... ;D

 

[Wingknut]

Another Googling hazard: this site transcribes the name as "Sombolt So 344": http://www.candymountain.jp/Home/planes/LUFTWAFFE/so344.html
Couple of reasonable images, including one of an So 344 apparently discharging its nose-rocket at a Republic F-12.

 

[moin1900]

Good Work EVERYBODY! Thanks for information about that.
To AF: Do you have some more Data about the Stockel Rammschussjäger, Please ?
What about the Launch System of the Stockel Rammschussjäger?

Thanks in advance

 

[AF]

Not much other data.

Take - off: plane was to have been transported to launch point as a mistel cobination.

AF

 

[jzichek]

Does anyone have access to a library with old back issues of Der Flieger? I was re-reading "Luftwaffe Secret Projects, Ground Attack & Special Purpose Aircraft" and the author mentions that there is more info and drawings of the the Stöckel ramjet-rocket interceptor proposals in "Der Flieger" Luftfahrt und Raumfahrt International, Vol. 47, No. 1 (January 1968). If someone has access to that issue and could post scans of the article here, that would be great, as I'm sure it would be of interest to many board members.


-Jared

 

[Nik]

What on earth...


I thought I'd seen most of the Napkinwaffe, but that three-engined monster is new to me !!


What is it ? And how real ??


( I did just enough Technical German at Uni to develop a loathing of post-fix languages... )

 

[Michel Van]

What on earth...

I thought I'd seen most of the Napkinwaffe, but that three-engined monster is new to me !!

What is it ? And how real ??

( I did just enough Technical German at Uni to develop a loathing of post-fix languages... )

oh that ? is one of usual "unusual" Aircraft proposal of Blohm & Voss: the BV P.170
a fighter Bomber proposal from 1942 by dr. Vogt


http://www.luft46.com/bv/bvp170.html

 

[Flitzer]

Hi
I don't know if this is of any use, but I found a very old file set of the Stockel.
I've thrown a few together on a single plate.


Many thanks
P

 

[Wurger]

Hi Flitzer,

does that old file contain more Stockel projects? Thanks!
By the way, excellent renderings, as usual .

 

[Flitzer]

Hi Wurger.
No unfortunately. I used the same refs as above.


But if anyone knows different.......
P

 

[Stargazer]

The Sombold So 344 in pictures:

 

[blackkite]

Hi!
WInd tunnel test model of Sombold So 344.
https://plane-encyclopedia.com/ww2/sombold-so-344/

 

[blackkite]

Hi!
https://war-book.ru/sombold-so-344-rammschussjager-istrebitel/

Sombold So 344 “Rammschussjager”

"In January 1943, work began on the So 344 Rammschussjager, a rocket-powered mini-interceptor, at Bley Segelflugzeugbau (Naumburg), under the direction of engineer Heinz Sombold. The engine was an HWK 509A-2 liquid-propellant rocket engine, mounted in the rear fuselage beneath the cockpit. Armament—two MG 151 machine guns or one MK 108 cannon—was mounted in the center fuselage above the wing. The So 344 was to be towed to an altitude of 6,000 m. After release, the fighter would turn on its engine and climb to an altitude of 1,000 m above the approaching enemy bomber formation. After completing its combat mission, the interceptor would land on its under-fuselage skid.

In January 1944, following a revision of the RLM's interceptor specifications, H. Sombold modified his aircraft. A design feature of this aircraft was a detachable nose cone (warhead) during target attack. This warhead, in fact, was an SC 500 bomb with four tail fins, equipped with a solid-fuel rocket motor for attacking enemy bombers from a safe distance. The fighter, performing a shallow dive attack on the bomber formation, was supposed to release the bomb from a distance exceeding the effective range of the bombers' defensive guns. The explosion of a single SC 500 bomb in the middle of an Allied bomber formation, which often employed a tight formation known as a "fighting box," was sufficient to destroy three to four enemy aircraft. The expected flight duration was only twenty-five minutes. After landing, the aircraft could be easily disassembled and transported by ground transport to the nearest airbase for reuse.

In the summer of 1944, the design was reviewed by RLM specialists, but ultimately rejected. The RLM later assigned the designation 344 to the Ruhrstahl X4 air-to-air missile. Before the end of the war, only aerodynamic tests of 1:5 scale models of the So 344 were conducted.

Crew – 1 person
Power plant – 1 x HWK 509A-2 liquid propellant rocket engine with a thrust of 1700 kgf
Wingspan – 5.7 m
Area – 6.0 m2
Length – 7.0 m
Height – 2.2 m
Flight weight – 1350 kg"

 

[blackkite]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS2wdD7IKC4