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Rockwell pre-ATF and ATF studies

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Good find, Hesham
 

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Fascinating missing link between the B-1 and the public ATF design.
 

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PaulMM (Overscan) said:
Rockwell ATF Model shown at Le Bourget 1983

Source: Aviation Week & Space Technology May 30 1983
Nice find my dear Paul.
 

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Advanced Design Composite Aircraft (Rockwell North American)

It's a trade design study comparing the all metal version against the composite design. Below is the composite design and the document contains the metal version and the inboard profiles of both which need stitching together. Notice the rear firing A2A missiles in the rear bay.
 

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Here are more images from the same document. The image I pieced together I just tried to align the side view, not the top view. I could do each better at a later date when I have time, but this is alright for now.
 

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I was given this drawing from a friend who worked at Rockwell in the middle of the HiMAT, AMSA, and pre-ATF years.
According to him, this was the preferred configuration before Raymer convinced management to use his.
It's obviously HiMAT derived, which was a selling point, but my friend told me that it was pretty obvious there was no way to cram meaningful quantities of fuel in it, it was a non-starter.
Pictures of this concept can be seen in pages 1 and 2 of this thread.

Note:image size reduced from original, i have a better copy
 

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Looks like would have been more in the class of a F-5 replacement.
 

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Its from 1979 - this is well before ATF concept formulation, so there was no consensus of what ATF might be. Some of the CF studies were lightweight fighters.
 

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PaulMM (Overscan) said:
Quick tidy up - will do better later on :)

Program is called TIGAR - Tactical Interceptor, Ground Attack & Reconnaissance.
New Info for me,thank you my dear Paul.
 

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AeroFranz said:
I was given this drawing from a friend who worked at Rockwell in the middle of the HiMAT, AMSA, and pre-ATF years.
According to him, this was the preferred configuration before Raymer convinced management to use his.
It's obviously HiMAT derived, which was a selling point, but my friend told me that it was pretty obvious there was no way to cram meaningful quantities of fuel in it, it was a non-starter.
Pictures of this concept can be seen in pages 1 and 2 of this thread.

Note:image size reduced from original, i have a better copy
This has to be one of the most nightmarish ammo feeds ever designed.
 

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Yeah, i'm not familiar with a whole lot of ammo feed systems but that seems a pain in the butt to work on. I wonder if the small overall dimensions of the fuselage forced the designers into this awkward layout.
 

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Sundog said:
Advanced Design Composite Aircraft (Rockwell North American)

It's a trade design study comparing the all metal version against the composite design. Below is the composite design and the document contains the metal version and the inboard profiles of both which need stitching together. Notice the rear firing A2A missiles in the rear bay.
The D572-4C,D572-5A & D572-5B
 

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From L+K 6/1978,

here is a Model for D575.
 

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A more clearer view,from , Jet Warplanes The Twenty-First Century
 

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Not the same design.
 

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Its half-brother, perhaps. It dates from before the Su-27 configuration was known, but the Su-27 had some similarity to the Rockwell FX which is the "father" of this design.
I love the Rockwell F/X. If we're talking Flanker similarity however. . .how .bout this Vought design:

VoughtV-483Models_zpsb12a5b68.jpg
 
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