National AeroSpace Plane (X-30)

[flateric]

what a wonderful weekend surprise here

 

[Stargazer2006]

Nice model pics. I had seen all these designs before of course, but the last one doesn't ring a bell... Any idea what it is?

 

[sferrin]

Nice model pics. I had seen all these designs before of course, but the last one doesn't ring a bell... Any idea what it is?

X-43B.

 

[Stargazer2006]

Nice model pics. I had seen all these designs before of course, but the last one doesn't ring a bell... Any idea what it is?

X-43B.

Thanks. I wasn't aware of a "B" variant with forward canards.

 

[sferrin]

Nice model pics. I had seen all these designs before of course, but the last one doesn't ring a bell... Any idea what it is?

X-43B.

Thanks. I wasn't aware of a "B" variant with forward canards.

There was suppose to be a "C" as well. Both cancelled of course.

 

[DSE]

Nice model pics. I had seen all these designs before of course, but the last one doesn't ring a bell... Any idea what it is?

X-43B.

Thanks. I wasn't aware of a "B" variant with forward canards.

See the poster I posted in:
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9729.msg120995.html#msg120995

ISTAR was the RBCC version of X-43B. There was a TBCC version as well.

 

[DSE]

Nice model pics. I had seen all these designs before of course, but the last one doesn't ring a bell... Any idea what it is?

X-43B.

Thanks. I wasn't aware of a "B" variant with forward canards.

There was suppose to be a "C" as well. Both cancelled of course.

You can thank Admiral Steidle and John Mankins and the spiral of spirals for that.

 

[sferrin]

3 B's and a C

 

[Meteorit]

We also have a thread on X-43B.

 

[sferrin]

We also have a thread on X-43B.

Looks like I missed it the first time around or I'd have posted the high rez pics way back when. Mods feel free to move them.

 

[DSE]

3 B's and a C

Off the old NGLT website at MSFC? I believe remnants of that site still live on in a few pieces, at least within a few months ago when I came across it again.

 

[Stargazer2006]

Found two interesting pictures of X-30 designs among pictures of desktop models located at Pima Air & Space Museum:
http://www.freewebs.com/aeroscale/pima.htm

First picture is captioned as the "DoD X-30" (probably a generic design) while the second is labeled as the "Dupont X-30".
This makes me wonder if it's the same Dupont as in the infamous DP-2 project...

 

[Orionblamblam]

This makes me wonder if it's the same Dupont as in the infamous DP-2 project...

Yes. Same duPont designed a spaceplane with fantastically optimistic weight and performance assumptions, and essentially kicked off the NASP.

 

[LeLouvre]

Escape capsule for Boeing's 1988 horizontal-take-off and landing 'Hypervelocity Technology Vehicle'...mmm...familiar 'conical accelerator' shapes...

source
HYPERVELOCITY TECHNOLOGY (HVT) CREW ESCAPE
Lanny A. Jines, P.E.
Aerospace Engineer
Air Force Wright Aeronautical Laboratories
Flight Dynamics Laboratory
Crew Escape and Subsystems Branch
Air Crew Escape Group
WPAFB, OH 45433

As a high school student in 1987, I had a summer internship working with this group at Wright-Patterson AFB. I helped with some computer projects in support of crew escape vehicle research for the National Aerospace Plane and Space Station Freedom.

I was given some artwork, most or all of which, IIRC, was already outdated when I got there. It depicts several crew escape concepts.

Hi-res scans of the lo-res prints are here: http://www.mediafire.com/?8d22rh55cho7c
(update: resized versions are in overscan's post below...thanks for that!)

I don't have any art for the space station; sorry.

 

[flateric]

Thank you very much! Very impressive arrival at the forum)

 

[overscan]

Images resized and posted...

 

[Triton]

Rockwell X-30 National Aero-Space Plane (NASP) model found on eBay.

URL:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rockwell-X-30-Space-Plane-Contractor-Desk-Model-NASA-USAF-/120830441540?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c220e3844

 

[shockonlip]

Thanks for the heads-up Triton !!

I know the guy who bought this.

It is very cool, and in great shape !

He thanks you!

 

[flateric]

_many_ interesting NASP stuff inside - thanks to jjnodice for finding these
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a535843.pdf
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a535837.pdf

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Greetings All -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUPONT-AEROSPACE-SPACE-PLANE-DISPLAY-MODEL-WITH-BOX-AND-STAND-/230756496598?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35ba28b4d6

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[Stargazer2006]

Cool! So that would be their X-30 proposal, right?

With the DP-2 white elephant behind them and little else on the shelves, I really wonder how DuPont expected to be viewed as a serious player on that one...

 

[flateric]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtN7aVPGqSs

 

[flateric]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200746598426&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

 

[flateric]

Rockwell's X-30 model

 

[flateric]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfpHEu4T0E0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBQk6a2aPoQ&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bkZ2Sbsjp0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUbHaPZqIxk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtN7aVPGqSs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYzpFQATyLE&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZlCx3g4Xek&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMyX63E2cyU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnOrc4KnaII&feature=related

 

[flateric]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiAn22qLcLw&list=UUI9BX-UcPOhsfr0fTklLytQ&index=2&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMpN1XXAF6U&feature=relmfu

 

[flateric]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bmDm36sfTc

 

[Triton]

Rocketdyne NASP (National AeroSpace Plane) model manufactured by Penwal found on eBay.

Source
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-PENWAL-NASP-ROCKETDYNE-X-30-NASA-MANUFACTURER-DESK-TOP-DISPLAY-SPACE-MODEL-/230841957893?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bf40be05

Real?

 

[GeorgeA]

So they are claiming a NASP model was built in 1975? Something doesn't compute there.

 

[Triton]

So they are claiming a NASP model was built in 1975? Something doesn't compute there.

The seller has been clueless for a long time, I just wanted to know if the model itself looked legitimate or worthwhile.

 

[flateric]

just a placeholder model to show "NASP"

 

[Orionblamblam]

I just wanted to know if the model itself looked legitimate or worthwhile.

It's a legit model. I did a restoration of just such a model for a client a couple years back. Another one of these is shown here: http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=8613

 

[Triton]

Thank you, Orionblamblam.

 

[shockonlip]

So what does this collector have against horizontal stabilizers?

Previously sold NASP model photo attached!

 

[flateric]

ta-dam...http://glostransporthistory.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/Air_More%20Aircraft%20Blow%20In.htm

 

[flateric]

http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/Science_and_Technology/DSB/596.pdf

 

[overscan]

X-30 / "Orient Express" mockup at Wright-Patterson Air Force base (?)


Source:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/bertreiheld/sets/72157622871828572/

 

[archipeppe]

X-30 / "Orient Express" mockup at Wright-Patterson Air Force base (?)


Source:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/bertreiheld/sets/72157622871828572/

Considering the dimensions it seems more like a scale model rather than a full scale mock-up, indeed it remains stunning....

 

[flateric]

"A 50-foot, detailed 1/3d scale mock up of the X-30 was built by engineering students at Mississippi State University"

 

[Mr London 24/7]

NASA-TM-109079 - Active Cooling From the Sixties to NASP:

http://thehuwaldtfamily.org/jtrl/research/Thermal%20Protection%20Systems%20(TPS)/NASA-TM-109079,%20Active%20Cooling%20From%20the%20Sixties%20to%20NASP.pdf