KAI T-50 and FA-50 Golden Eagle Thread

^ on the subject of the US Navy, any ideas on what they might be leaning towards? I feel that the TF-50 and the M-346 might be the strongest candidates.
Assuming that they're looking to replace the initial carrier landing trainers, it'll come down to which plane needs the least modifications to survive that. Saw a zero-visibility carrier landing video on FB today, that F-18E hit the deck at a 1400fpm sink rate...
 
Assuming that they're looking to replace the initial carrier landing trainers, it'll come down to which plane needs the least modifications to survive that. Saw a zero-visibility carrier landing video on FB today, that F-18E hit the deck at a 1400fpm sink rate...
Carrier landing is not a UJTS requirement. Only touch and go is.
 
Assuming that they're looking to replace the initial carrier landing trainers, it'll come down to which plane needs the least modifications to survive that. Saw a zero-visibility carrier landing video on FB today, that F-18E hit the deck at a 1400fpm sink rate...

They're looking to replace pretty much all of the pipeline except carrier landings, so they can conserve T-45 hours for carquals.

I can't see how it isn't the T-7.
 
They're looking to replace pretty much all of the pipeline except carrier landings, so they can conserve T-45 hours for carquals.
While that makes sense, they're still going to have to make a new carqual plane at some point.
 
to confirm what Tom wrote above.. this link explains a bit more detail


An Undergraduate Jet Training System (UJTS) request for information (RFI) released in mid-August provides a compromise: The future trainer would not be designed to go to the ship, but would need to be able to endure repeated unflared landings to practice the carrier flight profile.

While the Navy has trickled out multiple UJTS solicitations in the past five years, service officials say they are now pressing ahead to speed up the replacement. During a panel discussion at the Tailhook Symposium in Sparks, Nevada, on Aug. 26, then-Commander of Naval Air Forces Vice Adm. Kenneth Whitesell, who is retiring, said former Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Mike Gilday told the command to “get out of the T-45 as fast as possible.”


The RFI calls for an assumed contract award in 2026, for a minimum of 145 aircraft at a full-rate production of 25 per year. This would make the UJTS competition the service’s second largest aviation acquisition effort, behind its sixth-generation F/A-XX program.

Lockheed’s engineers have been reviewing the Navy’s latest RFI to determine what added work the aircraft would need. Though the requirements for unflared landings and glideslope would put stress on a trainer’s airframe over its lifespan, the company is confident it will meet the Navy’s requirements.

The increased emphasis on the carrier landing profile and repeated unflared landings is new in the August RFI, compared to previous versions released as early as 2018. Specifically, the document calls for an aircraft that can maintain a fixed angle-of-attack approach targeting a 3-deg. glideslope while maintaining field of view during an unflared landing. The aircraft needs to be capable of 6-10 unflared landings per training event, as well as conducting unflared landings throughout its service life.


To further replicate carrier operations, the aircraft must be able to maintain control and come to a stop on a minimum 6,000-ft.-long X 100-ft.-wide runway. In performance, the aircraft needs to be capable of Mach 0.9, a 7.33g sustained load factor and a ceiling of 41,000 ft.

Driving home the importance of FCLP operations, the Navy is inviting industry to a training base in Texas in October to monitor T-45 touch-and-goes in the flight profile “to enhance industry’s understanding of the unique Navy landings.”

I think the M-346 can manage those speed and ceiling requirements but just barely.
the T-50 and T-7A should be able to.
 
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