german flying boats

[raravia]

Hi folks

Look at this big seaplane, in the photograph of Professor Edmund Rumpler with one of these big projects, the Riesenflugboote of 1925.

The second illustration is another german project, the Schiefer Flying Boat of 1926.

Third is the LFG V3A of 1921

The last ones you can find it in http://www.msacomputer.com/FlyingBoats-old/

if somebody has more information, please tell us!

Saludos

Fabián

 

[lark]

Fabian,

Rumpler Transozean-Flugboot Projekt.

- Rumpler design as you mentioned was a trans ocean flying boat project with a span
of 94 meter and a lenght of 39.3m.Six giant floats carrying the tailplanes
with a space of 10m. between the floats.(centre to centre) Plane was to be powered
by ten 1000 PS engines.

- Version of 1927 with 4 floats and same dimensions.

- Version of 1928 with only two floats.Span of this third version was 88m.
Lenght:48.7m.Ten liquid cooled engines of 1000 P.S. Range : 6000Km with a
speed of 300km/h
Total weight of 115 Ton with a crew of 35 and 135 passengers.

Some test were made with scale models in the windtunnel of
the Aerodynamischen Versuchsanstalt -aerodynamic research institute- in Göttingen.

source : Die Deutschen Flugboote by Fred Gütschow. publ. MotorbuchVerlag-Stuttgart.1978

Lark.

 

[raravia]

Thank you Lark

This book you mention have a 3 view of the project?

Saludos

Fabián

 

[lark]

Good day Fabian,

The books haves a front view of the 6 float version and 3 views of
the four and two float variants.

I have no scanner , but please , take a look in your mail with ref. "Rumpler"

Paul.

 

[lark]

Good day Fabian,

The books haves a front view of the 6 float version and 3 views of
the four and two float variants.

I have no scanner , but please , take a look in your mail with ref. "Rumpler"

Paul.

 

[hesham]

The Schiefer flying boat Project.

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Ala%20d'Italia/L'ALA%20D'ITALIA%201926%2008.pdf

 

[hesham]

Also from L'Air Revue 1926.

 

[athpilot]

The Hamburger Flugzeugbau GmbH (later to become Blohm & Voss) Transozean-Flugboot project P 45.
From the Baubeschreibung.

 

[athpilot]

A little more information on the P 45 and P 200 from this german book:

 

[newsdeskdan]

The P 200 images are derived from this. Some of the images in Pohlmann's book are lifted straight from the original documents but others, sadly, are inaccurate redrawings. I suppose that when he wrote it he was just shooting for an overview - IIRC it's a sort of vague autobiography, rather like the one written by Vogt.

 

[steelpillow]

Some of the images in Pohlmann's book are lifted straight from the original documents but others, sadly, are inaccurate redrawings. I suppose that when he wrote it he was just shooting for an overview - IIRC it's a sort of vague autobiography,

Pohlmann's book is an attempt at a history of the whole Hamburger Flugzeugbau enterprise, from its foundation as an offshoot of B&V to its reintegration during WWII to its reformation afterwards. There is relatively little autobiography; Pohlmann himself only joined when Vogt was snowed under as WWII got into its stride. Indeed, Pohlmann returned when the remaining Blohm resurrected the company, yet tells nothing of his time there.

You may be mixing his account up with Hans Amtmann's memoir on The Vanishing Paperclips. Amtmann was head of Preliminary Design under Vogt and also led some of the big flying-boat projects, especially the P 200, due to his prior experience.

 

[steelpillow]

B&V flying boat projects, culled from my B&V list. Float planes not included:

P 8 or P14? > Ha 138 / BV 138 Seedrache. Reconnaissance flying boat, trimotor. 1936. 279 produced.
P 9. Flying boat, twin boom. (Unconfirmed)
P 14. Reconnaissance flying boat
P 42. Six engined twin-hulled flying boat. Predecessor to P 54 (Ha 222).
P 43. Six engined single-hulled flying boat. Predecessor to P 54 (Ha 222).
P 54 > Ha 222 / BV 222 Wiking. Six-engine maritime flying boat. 1940. Dozen or so built.
P 57. Flying boat. (Unconfirmed)
P 60. Flying boat. (Unconfirmed)
P 110. Twin-boom flying boat.[1] BV 138 development/replacement. 1940
P 111. Asymmetric flying boat. BV 138 replacement. 1940
P 112. Asymmetric flying boat. BV 138 replacement. 1940
P 113. Twin-hull flying boat. BV 138 replacement.
P 116. BV 222 development. (Unconfirmed)
P 117. BV 222 development. (Unconfirmed)
P 118. BV 222 development. (Unconfirmed)
P 119. BV 222 development. (Unconfirmed)
P 122. Twin-boom flying boat. BV 138 replacement.
P 123. Twin-hull flying boat. BV 138 replacement.
P 124. Twin-boom flying boat. BV 138 replacement.
P 125. Twin-hull flying boat. BV 138 replacement.
P 138. Long range reconnaissance flying boat. (Unconfirmed)
P 139. Flying boat. (Unconfirmed)
P 144 > BV 238. Maritime flying boat. Largest aircraft to fly until the Hughes HK-1. 1944. 2 built.
P 148. Flying boat. (Unconfirmed)
P 149. Flying boat. (Unconfirmed)
P 150. Transatlantic flying boat. Pressurised cabin. (Unconfirmed)
P 160. Transatlantic flying boat. (Unconfirmed)
P 200. Giant transatlantic passenger flying boat. 1941
P ? > BV 726. Jet development of the P 200, aimed at postwar production.

 

[MadRat]

The Rumpler looks like it had potential. There must have been some large floorspace in it. But what happens when the guests all rush to one side and there is no FCS to compensate? People do stupid behaviors when in a mob.