Follow-on Stinger - future MANPADS systems

Turkey's New MANPAD system SUNGUR replacing stingers
https://twitter.com/x/status/1844287443920617946
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Display board detailing the specifications translated;

Diameter: 80 mm
Maximum Effective Range: 8 km
Minimum Effective Range: 500 m
Weight: 19 kg
Length: 175 cm
Missile Flight Time: 26 seconds
Target: Aircraft, Helicopter, UAV
Reaction Time: Less than 5 seconds
BSU Usage Time: 60 seconds
Missile Launch Speed: 25 m/s
Azimuth: 360°
Elevation Range: +10° to +65°
Operating Temperature: -40°C to +56°C
Net Explosive Weight: 8959 grams
 
I saw the mockup of the Lockheed entry to replace the stinger at AUSA.
Looks like a derivative of the Javelin LWCLU but boxier, and a stinger tube (of course it's gonna be a 70mm class rocket, about the max size easily manpackable.
Didn't snap a pic though (mistake)
 
Raytheon saying they have completed subsystem tests on their NGSRI, Next-Generation Short-Range Interceptor, and a system flight test demonstration will take place later this year, in competition with Lockheed to replace the Stinger missile. Claiming improved target acquisition, range and lethality with its enhanced range for operation and identification of aerial targets in low visibility environments.

Are the Raytheon missile group highlighting lasers limited performance in low visibility weather/smoke and why missiles have the better operational capability ?

https://insidedefense.com/insider/raytheon-completes-ngsri-subsystem-tests
 
“The #NGSRI advanced seeker assembly demonstrated max range acquisition far exceeding Stinger in both laboratory & outdoor environments. NGSRI's flight-ready & revolutionary rocket motor demo’s the ability to extend intercept range of maneuver short-range air defense engagements”

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RTX's Raytheon completes 10 subsystem demonstrations for U.S. Army's Next-Generation Short-Range Interceptor program

Demos highlight maturity and capability of Raytheon NGSRI solutionTUCSON, Ariz., Feb. 18, 2025 /PRNewswire/ -- Raytheon, an RTX (NYSE: RTX) business, announced a series of 10 successful subsystem demonstrations for the U.S. Army's Next-Generation Short-Range Interceptor (NGSRI), which will...
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1891853485567549793
View: https://x.com/AirPowerNEW1/status/1891853485567549793
 
Once again DoD/Army must rustle these programs back into a common component based modular (~70mm) missile/munition family rather than these 'government capture' babies.
 
I wonder if this will retain the 70mm heritage or will go to 80mm like some other MANPADS.
 
I'm wondering when a Stinger replacement will finally go into production as while the Stinger is a very capable, combat proven design it is, well, rather "Mature".
 
NMaude said:
I'm wondering when a Stinger replacement will finally go into production as while the Stinger is a very capable, combat proven design it is, well, rather "Mature".
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Casualty of the Peace Dividend.

If the Cold War had continued, Stinger likely would have been replaced in the late 1990s or early 2000s.

Forest Green said:
www.army.mil

New propulsion program for legacy missile delivers a sharper sting

Red Wasp is an air defense interceptor S&T program at DEVCOM AvMC applying solid fuel ramjet tech to the Stinger missile to increase effective distance.
www.army.mil www.army.mil
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If they can pack a solid fuel ramjet into a Stinger-sized package (70mm tube), then it can be packed into a Sidewinder-sized package... Or into APKWS.
 

RTX and Northrop Grumman conduct successful rocket motor tests for U.S. Army's Next-Generation Short-Range Interceptor​

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RTX and Northrop Grumman conduct successful rocket motor tests for U.S. Army's Next-Generation Short-Range Interceptor

Raytheon advances NGSRI development with continued testingTUCSON, Ariz., June 5, 2025 /PRNewswire/ -- Raytheon, an RTX (NYSE: RTX) business, and Northrop Grumman (NYSE: NOC) announced four successful tests of flight-ready Highly Loaded Grain (HLG) solid rocket motors for the U.S. Army's...
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Forest Green said:

RTX and Northrop Grumman conduct successful rocket motor tests for U.S. Army's Next-Generation Short-Range Interceptor IMG_0813.JPG ​

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RTX and Northrop Grumman conduct successful rocket motor tests for U.S. Army's Next-Generation Short-Range Interceptor

Raytheon advances NGSRI development with continued testingTUCSON, Ariz., June 5, 2025 /PRNewswire/ -- Raytheon, an RTX (NYSE: RTX) business, and Northrop Grumman (NYSE: NOC) announced four successful tests of flight-ready Highly Loaded Grain (HLG) solid rocket motors for the U.S. Army's...
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Funniest thing to me is that I've used that range for my (ill fated) L1 attempt.
*Ligma Nozzle* executed a perfect TLAM pitchover 50ft off the rail in the direction of CLWS while under boost and was promptly lost to the desert.
(I did not qualify)
 
Okay this gets interesting, MBDA has a son of Stinger VSHORAD to compliment their MISTRAL system.

Air Defence - How MBDA covers on all layers of the air defence

As the sole European company offering the full spectrum of sovereign complex weapons solutions to cover the armed forces’ current and future needs, MBDA stands more than ever alongside the armed forces, helping them overmatch the most complex
www.mbda-systems.com www.mbda-systems.com
But it looks so WEIRD, look at the gripstock lmaoooo

MBDA awarded contract to develop FULGUR very short-range missile for the Italian Army

MBDA signed a development contract to equip the Italian Army with a very short-range air defence (VSHORAD) system. Announcing the contract during Paris Air Show currently under way at Le Bourget from 16-20 June 2025, MBDA also unveiled the name of the missile – ‘FULGUR’ – at the core of the...
www.mbda-systems.com www.mbda-systems.com
 
MissileMan said:
Okay this gets interesting, MBDA has a son of Stinger VSHORAD to compliment their MISTRAL system.

Air Defence - How MBDA covers on all layers of the air defence

As the sole European company offering the full spectrum of sovereign complex weapons solutions to cover the armed forces’ current and future needs, MBDA stands more than ever alongside the armed forces, helping them overmatch the most complex
www.mbda-systems.com www.mbda-systems.com
But it looks so WEIRD, look at the gripstock lmaoooo

MBDA awarded contract to develop FULGUR very short-range missile for the Italian Army

MBDA signed a development contract to equip the Italian Army with a very short-range air defence (VSHORAD) system. Announcing the contract during Paris Air Show currently under way at Le Bourget from 16-20 June 2025, MBDA also unveiled the name of the missile – ‘FULGUR’ – at the core of the...
www.mbda-systems.com www.mbda-systems.com
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Copied Shorts' homework with the Blowpipe/Javelin and not bothered to have the forward fins fold into the body; just enlarge the launch tube diameter at the muzzle to accomodate them in a forward-folded position?
 
Cthell said:
Copied Shorts' homework with the Blowpipe/Javelin and not bothered to have the forward fins fold into the body; just enlarge the launch tube diameter at the muzzle to accomodate them in a forward-folded position?
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Now that I think about it since you mentioned the Blowpipe/Javelin I don't know why the FIM-43C Redeye and the follow on FIM-92 Stinger didn't use the same solution eliminating the need for folding control-fins.
 
Neat, the line reactivation seems to have gone well and it sounds like we should get our first looks at live-shot testing of the candidates for the next gen MANPADS.
Hopefully its more stylistically named than the Locksneed candidate, quadstar sucks.

U.S. Army Prepares To Field New Stingers, Progressing On M-SHORAD | Aviation Week Network

The restarted production of the U.S. Army’s FIM-92 Stinger is progressing after more than two decades of dormancy.
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RTX is teasing their NGRSI.
Bet they might have a mockup at AUSA next week, I'll keep an eye out for it when I go look.
No name announced yet
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Faster, farther and ready for the future

On his shoulder is a missile launcher. Before his eyes is an advanced new optic with enhanced zoom and the ability to see in a way he never thought possible. And in the launcher is a munition that can fly farther and faster than its predecessor. His eyes could only see a row of trees against a...
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I really hope they come up with a better name than NGSRI or Quadstar .......
 
Myself included zjz. I would think that there would be dozens of potential names out there that are better than Quadstar, more thought needs to be given to names. Just look at the names given to modern Russian missiles for example.
 

RTX's Raytheon completes successful ballistic test for U.S. Army's Next Generation Short Range Interceptor​

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RTX's Raytheon completes successful ballistic test for U.S. Army's Next Generation Short Range Interceptor

Raytheon advances NGSRI with company-funded testingTUCSON, Ariz., Feb. 2, 2026 /PRNewswire/ -- Raytheon, an RTX (NYSE: RTX) business, has successfully completed a ballistic test for the U.S. Army's Next Generation Short Range Interceptor (NGSRI), which will replace the Stinger® surface-to-air...
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https://twitter.com/x/status/2018383920740307164
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