Drones and how to kill them?



 
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Can this old systems be used to detect sound from an airplane and use them for drone detection?
 

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Can this old systems be used to detect sound from an airplane and use them for drone detection?
Maybe?

You see, the sound from things like quadcopters is relatively high-pitched, which makes it absorbed quickly by the environment. Low frequency sounds like explosions travel long distances, but high freqs fade out over short distances. So you'd need many, many such listening posts.

Ukraine is using the equivalent of a highly distributed version of this idea to listen for drones, using thousands of modified cellphones.
 
Ukraine having some success with its interceptor FPV. At least 406 Russian winged UAV downed by the 'Sky Cutter' programme.

View: https://x.com/sternenko/status/1860965736778223946


Google Translation
400+ RUSSIAN RECONNAISSANCE UAVS DOWN!
Six months ago, such a result seemed incredible, but now it is a reality - our soldiers, with your help, have already shot down 406 enemy drones as part of the Sky Cutter program
Namely:
Zala - 211
Supercam - 137
Orlan - 46
Lancet - 7
Others - 5
Depriving the Russians of air reconnaissance means saved lives, preserved equipment and disorganization of the enemy's battle management.Each such UAV could target a missile, aerial bomb, and artillery. Lancets also cannot fly without Zala.Thank you for this help to the army!Together, we not only provide the army, but also advance the development of technology.Pour on new FPV.

As Sternenko says it appears to have had a real effect on the Russian Lancet loitering munition operations that was dependent on paired Zala recon UAV. Attacks are reportedly down 75%. That must hurt the Russian's as it was one of their principal counter battery weapons.

 
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Really good article. Ukrainian forces have now likely shot down at least 850 Russian fixed wing UAV with FPV. Which is a remarkable success in a short space of time...add in at least 2 manned helicopters downed, and apparently FPV with the speed to down Shahed style drones and its going to get interesting..

 
Depends on the class of drone.
Something like a reaper, or fire scout, a SAM is very much acceptable.
Something like a shahed? Lasers or gun based major caliber systems.
Quadcopter? Shotguns and man portable jammers.
 
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The problem with running [edit] undersized shot of any kind through a rifled barrel is that you end up with an empty space in the center of the shot pattern, and all the shot hitting around the outside of the pattern. like a classic donut shape. Maybe if you're dumping half a magazine it won't matter as much, especially if it's mixed shot and conventional rounds (whether ball, tracer, or AP), with the conventional rounds filling the center of the pattern if the gunner can hold steady enough?

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BB size rounds are readily available, but I think you'd get better results out of using TT goose pellets in a 5.45mm rifle. TT pellets are 5.33mm in diameter. If those are a little too big, size T goose pellets are 5.08mm.

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Friend of mine reloads his own ammo, it'll be an interesting thing to mess with if he's bored this winter.

edit: forgot an important word!
 
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The best drone destruction method would seem to be destruction of manafacturing and distribution sites before they get to the point of operation.

So, in this cae, the F-35 and other systems would be the best method of destroying drones.

IMOHO, of course. Or I could be sniffing my own socks far more than is good for me.........
 
The best drone destruction method would seem to be destruction of manafacturing and distribution sites before they get to the point of operation.

So, in this cae, the F-35 and other systems would be the best method of destroying drones.

IMOHO, of course. Or I could be sniffing my own socks far more than is good for me.........
Kill the archer, not the arrow.
 
New type of net deploying system for drones
The interesting aspect of this is that it doesnt use squibs or blanks to fire the net just good old springs
As long as the springs are captive and don't go sproing-ing out across the field, it's an improvement. But being able to use a small blank is likely simpler.
 

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