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Perhaps the announcement of the sale of 12 Rafale to Serbia tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, on the occasion of President Macron's visit to Serbia.
www.latribune.fr

La Serbie sur le point de s'offrir le Rafale de Dassault Aviation

Dassault Aviation devrait signer un contrat Rafale avec la Serbie (12 avions de combat). Cette nouvelle commande permettrait à l'avionneur d'accrocher à l'export un huitième pays à la liste des forces armées qui ont choisi l'avion de combat tricolore.
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The two capitals - Paris and Belgrade - both want this transaction. “Our hope is to see this discussion come to fruition on the occasion of the visit” of Emmanuel Macron to Serbia at the invitation of the Serbian president, explained the Élysée. Aleksandar Vucic told AFP on Wednesday that he hoped to conclude the highly anticipated purchase of French fighter planes during the French president's visit.
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Just now, the French news channel BFM TV is broadcasting a banner on which it is written that "Serbia has concluded the purchase of 12 French Rafale combat aircraft in the presence of Emmanuel Macron."

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www.dassault-aviation.com

La Serbie fait l’acquisition de 12 Rafale - Press kits de Dassault Aviation

Éric Trappier a signé ce jour à Belgrade, avec le Ministre serbe de la Défense, Bratislav Gašić, un contrat portant sur l’acquisition de 12 Rafale pour équiper la Force aérienne et la Défense aérienne des Forces armées serbes. © Dassault Aviation - C. Cosmao
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Deltafan said:
There have been articles about electronic warfare tests between Rafale and Su-35 in Egypt, where the Rafale won, but, as far as I know, it was fake news. Apparently these tests never took place. The sources were a Breaking Defense article and a tweet, both from Mahmoud Gamal, but I never found either. They both disappeared.

Then, as at one time Russia bought Western equipment, notably French, to equip the Flanker series aircraft,
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Soukhoï Su-30 — Wikipédia

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I imagine that French electronics was superior to Russians in terms of avionics, especially now that Russia has struggling to equip themselves with Western components. But perhaps that will change in the future, especially with China's possible aid to Russia.
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They told us that,the radar of Rafale make a blind vision to Su-35,of course I don't mean any offence,because
I know the Sukhoi Su-35 is one of the best fighter have been ever made in my opinion,but I can't believe this ?.
 
hesham said:
They told us that,the radar of Rafale make a blind vision to Su-35,of course I don't mean any offence,because
I know the Sukhoi Su-35 is one of the best fighter have been ever made in my opinion,but I can't believe this ?.
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It was never confirmed and the original source removed the original article and tweet. For me, this is fake news.
 
Cjc said:
And apparently the hole deal is in jeparty do to the telegram ceo being arrested.

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No, it's fake news too... Already debunked Yesterday...

Among others:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1828703107607323068
View: https://x.com/politblogme/status/1828703107607323068

www.france24.com

Truth or Fake - Telegram boss's arrest: Fake Al Jazeera video claims France lost $17 billion in UAE arms deal

Although he was only in French police custody for a few days before his release under judicial supervision, disinformation surrounding the Russian-born Telegram founder Pavel Durov has hit the internet.…
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www.eurasiantimes.com

$17B Setback For French Rafales? Concocted News Of UAE Suspending Dassault Deal Traps Global Media

In the era of digital news and social media, news travels fast. But fake news travels faster and wider. This was recently illustrated by the extensive coverage regarding the UAE’s purported suspension of its historic Rafale agreement in light of “supposed” diplomatic strains with France. The...
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Nobody made the remark, but it´s fair to say that 3b$ is an expensive amount to spend for 12 Rafale.
Last Belgium F-35 deal was for 34 airframe (nearly 3 times as much airframe) for 6,5b$ (2018), latest Block. Factor 25% inflation and you are still on the loosing side with the 4th Gen Dassault jet.

Let´s hope that Belgrade got some advantageous terms on the financial side.
 
TomcatViP said:
it´s fair to say that 3b$ is an expensive amount to spend for 12 Rafale.

Let´s hope that Belgrade got some advantageous terms on the financial side.
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Hard to tell because we don’t know the details of the package and in particular whether financing costs are included in the quoted price. It’s not uncommon for accumulated interest to greatly increase the package cost, especially if you’re a country with poor credit (like Serbia).

If you look at neighboring Bulgaria they had to put 100% cash down for 16 F-16Vs and that cost them $2.7B for deliveries in 2025-27. If they had gotten export financing (say at a 3-4% interest rate for 10+ years) the package cost would have been much higher, and probably not that dissimilar on a per aircraft basis to Serbia’s Rafale deal.
 
H_K said:
Hard to tell because we don’t know the details of the package and in particular whether financing costs are included in the quoted price. It’s not uncommon for accumulated interest to greatly increase the package cost, especially if you’re a country with poor credit (like Serbia).

If you look at neighboring Bulgaria they had to put 100% cash down for 16 F-16Vs and that cost them $2.7B for deliveries in 2025-27. If they had gotten export financing (say at a 3-4% interest rate for 10+ years) the package cost would have been much higher, and probably not that dissimilar on a per aircraft basis to Serbia’s Rafale deal.
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Also important is that a portion of that cost are essentially fixed price support elements that don't drastically change based on increased quantities. Going from 16 to 24 would result in those costs being shared across more airframes thereby making the deal look better.
 
Ozair said:
Also important is that a portion of that cost are essentially fixed price support elements that don't drastically change based on increased quantities. Going from 16 to 24 would result in those costs being shared across more airframes thereby making the deal look better.
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Yes... set-up, equipment, and personnel training for the Serbian AF to operate and maintain Rafales will cost virtually the same total whether 12, 16, or 24 aircraft are bought.
 
One of those little things that politicians and beancounters alike tend to overlook....
 
Yep... 12 aircraft would almost certainly be maintained by technicians working 1 shift.

Adding 6-12 more aircraft would possibly require a few more technicians for a second work shift, but no additional facilities or equipment.
 
helmutkohl said:
I wonder who the customer would be? an existing Air Force?

or some one new that wasn't listed in the article..
France has been trying to make inroads to several former USSR countries, such as Uzbekistan and Armenia
or perhaps another country in Europe?
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Armenia would probably be super happy to, but Rafale just doesn't happy at a price point they can afford.

Their su-30sm was a very narrow thing already (afaik they cut all the corners), and that was at ODKB pricing (I. e. internal Russian price).
 
Rafale possibly in competition with the F-15EX in Morocco :
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Le Maroc sera-t-il le prochain client du Rafale F4 ? - Zone Militaire

Interrogé sur la vente de 12 chasseurs-bombardiers Rafale à la Serbie alors qu'il était invité par Europe 1, le 30 août, le PDG de Dassault Aviation, Éric
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In recent days, a rumor about a possible Rafale order has been gaining momentum in Morocco. Until now, only the resumption of around thirty UAE Mirage 2000-9s had been brought forward. However, it has also been reported that the Royal Air Force is interested in Boeing's F-15EX [or Eagle II]. Which was not confirmed subsequently...
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For its part, the Moroccan news site Hespress wonders. “Could Morocco be the next buyer of Rafale fighter jets,” he wonders. He therefore sought insight from Mohamed Badine El Yattioui, professor of strategic studies at the National Defense College of the United Arab Emirates.
“The various discussions around the purchase of the Rafale or the F-15 have been underway for some time, and Emmanuel Macron's decision, at the end of July, to recognize Morocco's sovereignty over the southern provinces will certainly play a role in the balance,” he said. And to recall that the Royal Air Forces have “always had French and American aircraft” and that “the Rafale therefore constitutes the good option to replace the Mirage F1”, which was also brought to the ASTRAC standard in 2011.
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هل تعاقد المغرب على مقاتلات "رافال" الفرنسية؟ - موقع الدفاع العربي

أعلن الرئيس التنفيذي لشركة “داسو للطيران” أن هناك احتمالية لتوقيع صفقة بيع طائرات رافال قبل نهاية هذه السنة لعميل دولي آخر. موقع الدفاع العربي 31 أغسطس 2024: بعد بيع اثنتي عشرة طائرة رافال إلى صربيا، وهو عقد تم توقيعه خلال زيارة الرئيس الفرنسي إيمانويل ماكرون للبلاد، أعلن الرئيس التنفيذي لشركة...
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The manufacturer revealed that it has entered into new negotiations with other countries.
Dassault aviation's chief executive said: "I think we can expect another contract before the end of the year." He said it would be a "real challenge" that would ensure the company's sustainability.
The news comes at a time that coincides with French President Emmanuel Macron's upcoming visit to Morocco after Paris recognized the Moroccanness of the Sahara.
If the deal is in Morocco's favor, it will most likely be at the expense of the American F-15 EX fighter jet in order to diversify weapons sources.
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As usual, to be confirmed.
 
Hi,

but for UAE,I heard that,they had been cancelled from another sources (Arabic sources) ?.
 

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