Cape Canaveral Launch Complexes

[XP67_Moonbat]

LC-39C is real now
http://www.americaspace.com/?p=84641

 

[blackstar]

LC-39C is real now
http://www.americaspace.com/?p=84641

Well, it's a flat square of concrete.

I remember about a decade ago I was out at Vandenberg and my buddy said "I'll take you to see our 'spaceport.'" And we drove to a spot where there was a square of concrete. I think they made one or two launches from it and then moved on to a different location.

 

[Michel Van]

That's the flat square of concrete of the Cape Road.
Between Pad 39 A and Pad 39 B and Gator hole and Ocean.


and 39 C will be use for Small launcher max of 200000 lb. launch mass
that not what I expected, a another big launch pad for SLS and Falcon 9 Heavy and giant Falcon.

 

[Michel Van]

here picture were Launch pad 39C is will be build
for my taste it to close to Pad 39B
if launch goes wrong like the Antares rocket

 

[Michel Van]

Launch pad 39C

now it's 11 years later and not Pad 39C
but Pad 39A got Starship Launch Pad next to it
i wonder will one day Pad 39A & B be modified to launch Starships or New Armstrong ?

 

[Archibald]

Great discussion and pictures ! CCAFS pad archeology lol.

 

[Byeman]

39C was a waste like LC-48 is

 

[Sferrin]

39C was a waste like LC-48 is

Why are they a waste?

 

[Byeman]

Why are they a waste?

no users

 

[Yellow Palace]

Some helpful soul at NTRS has uploaded the entire text of the 1961 Fleming report which outlined what was felt to be a feasible response to Kennedy's desire to 'catch up' with the Soviet Union in spaceflight. Whole bunch of interesting stuff, but so far as launch sites were concerned, a mobile launch concept would be worthwhile for Saturn C-3, but not for Nova, and wouldn't be feasible for a solid-propellant C-3. Assuming liquid propellant, two Saturn C-3 and three Nova pads would be required, with one of each being a spare.

Given the problems associated with such large rockets (two and eight F-1s respectively in the first stages), alternatives to on-shore at Cape Canaveral were considered. Southern Florida was totally infeasible, while the Bahamas - Fleming liked Great Abaco, the later Debus-Davis commission preferred Mayuaguana - might offer some advantages but would be significantly more expensive and would require an international agreement with (at that time) the United Kingdom.

Cumberland Island, adjacent to Kings Bay Army Terminal - no Trident base yet of course! - was attractive if large solid rockets were involved, but probably not necessary if only liquid rockets were to be used. Offshore launch sites at Cape Canaveral were thought unnecessary for C-3, but might be required for a solid propellant Nova.

Also of interest is the possible need for two additional Atlas pads subsequent to LC 36B; given the Saturn and Nova complexes to the north, these would have to go in somewhere south of LC 36B. These presumably correspond to the unbuilt LC 38, and the general area of OTL's LC 46 seems likely. An additional Thor-Delta pad would be acquired by converting a pad at LC 18 from Blue Scout back to Thor. Both of these might be unnecessary if some launches could be performed from Vandenberg.

A Feasible Approach for an Early Manned Lunar Landing. Part I: Summary Report of Ad Hoc Task Group Study - NASA Technical Reports Server (NTRS)

This report, in two parts, presents a program development plan for attempting a first manned lunar landing in 1967. The two parts consist of a Summary Report and a Detailed Report representing the coordinated output of the ad hoc task group assigned to the study. The study was started in...

ntrs.nasa.gov

A Feasible Approach for an Early Manned Lunar Landing. Part II: Detailed Report of Ad Hoc Task Group - NASA Technical Reports Server (NTRS)

This report, in two parts, presents a program development plan for attempting a first manned lunar landing in 1967. The two parts consist of a Summary Report and a Detailed Report representing the coordinated output of the Ad Hoc Task Group assigned to the study. The study was started in...

ntrs.nasa.gov

 

[Byeman]

I have the Debus-Davis study but it is too large to post

 

[Sferrin]

I have the Debus-Davis study but it is too large to post

One possibility would be to zip it into a multipart archive and upload the pieces. Or maybe Paul could offer a solution.