British Army "Flying Jeeps" / "Jumping Jeeps"

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In the book Project Cancelled there is a whole chapter devoted to the British Army project for a "Jumping Jeep" which could leap across obstacles using jump jets/rotorfans. The winning bid from BAC was under development until the mid 60s when it was cancelled on cost and practicality grounds. Handley Page's efforts are covered in the history of Handley Page aircraft from Purnall books (?) but the Shorts offering is not so well covered.

This is an interesting project and I wonder if anyone out there has found any company brochures or sources other than the books above. I have not tried the US patent office yet..

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I see that page 2 of the article hasn't uploaded properly, so i'll try again. Overscan, can I ask, what is the the best size, in pixels, for posting images?


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If anyone has access to the "Pye Book of Science", published in the mid-60s some time, I gather there is a photo of a model of the Jumping Jeep which looks much smarter than the winning BAC P35 covered in "Project Cancelled". Could this be the Shorts entry? It apparently looks like a 1 ton Land Rover (used in the 70s for towing guns) with a large fan instead of the cargo deck.

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Hi folks,

Something odd I came across - Handley Page's "Flying Jeeps" from the late'50s/early 60's:

The H.P. 120 Mk.4:




Wasn't sure whether to put this in "Army Secret Projects" or "Postwar Secret Projects".

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Well, during the '60s such projects boomed, not only in Great Britain,
but in France, too. Have my problems, too, where to put them. Honestly,
I can't really accept them as "aircraft", but as the COULD have left the
ground, they are ... but, AFAIK, in all cases one important point in design was,
that they shouldn't have needed a fully trained pilot, a driver with some
additional training should have been sufficient.
But they all are basically VTOL aircraft, so we shouldn't mix them up with all
those mudd-movers, I think ! ;)
 

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see the previous thread on the 'Jumping Jjeep' in this section

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no probs, and apologies for my poor typing, no such thing as a 'Jjeep', LOL, ;D
 

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Have a look at The National Archives catalogue search for
Project Prodigal
there is a report on this kind of study from about 5 manufacturers, IIRC
 

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Do you know if the Project Prodigal paperwork contains further drawings of projects, or is it just a narrative account?

A book published in about 1965 called the Pye Book of Science has a picture of a jeep similar to the Handley Page model but with a large lift fan like the srn1 hovercraft. Unfortunately I no longer have this book.

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Perhaps the Folland proposal ?
(from D.Wood "Project cancelled")
 

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... or the Saunders Roe P.540-2 ?
(from Tagg/Wheeler "From Sea To Air")
 

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AVIA 65/1540 Project PRODIGAL: army vehicle with limited airborne capability
It has drawings, including IIRC, the Folland and SR ones, and one or perhaps two from Westland, one at least with rotors.
Diagrams and photos of models. Quite a fair sized document, or I would have taken photos, but I just had a quick look when I was at TNA hunting ships.
 

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Many thanks for this.
I really must find time to got to the National Archives. The Project Prodigal document would make an excellent basis for a book.

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Some more information about the jet-lift Handley Page H.P.120,
Source :- Putnam's 'Handley Page' pp. 579-82.

Following the start of the Shorts S.C.1 VTOL aircraft flight test trials in 1957/58, the Army became interested in a light scout vehicle capable of using the same techniques to cross otherwise impassable obstacles.
The Fighting Vehicle Research and Development Establishment [FVRDE] at Chobham, Surrey, issued Specification 92/58 for an
'Airborne Reconnaissance Vehicle with a crew of Two'; the (in)famous 'Jumping Jeep'.

The Handley Page company made a number of exploratory studies using jet-lift. in addition to the rotor-borne studies above.
The first series, H.P.112, were to use the RB.108, however the multiple engines required led to a too-complex installation, to be operationally acceptable.

However a second study, the H.P.118 'VTOL Jeep' from 1960, were based around the larger RB.162 of 4,400 lb static thrust.
This was still not enough, but in 1961 Rolls-Royce offered a developed RB.162 with an additional top[front] fan producing 11,000lbs thrust.

This led to the H.P.120, on two versions. Type A was wingless, relying purely on jet-lift, for 'hopping', and short, low-altitude flights.
For land power, it would use a 100hp Coventry Climax 2 1/2 litre petrol engine, and four-wheel drive, giving 45mph on normal roads, and 25mph cross-country. Fuel capacity on land was sufficient for around 230 miles, in the air approximately 45 miles at low altitude in still air, or 50 'hops' of 1,000 yards.

The type B was to use folding wings and tail, along with jet deflection, to improve the the airborne performance, without compromising that on land.
The first version added a simple folding wing of 16' span and 144 sq ft area. This actually reduced the range to 40 hops or 37 miles.
Increasing the wing area to 178 sq ft and 27' span decreased performance still further, to 36 hops and 35 miles, even though limited thrust deflection was to be used.

Increasing the range of jet deflection to the horizontal more than doubled the airborne 'miles per gallon' and increased the range to 79 miles, without any loss of hopping ability. However, in order to achieve this, the engine needed to be throttled in horizontal flight, giving very poor sfc figures.

In order to correct this, the RB.162 was replaced with four RB.172 engines, each of 3,300lb thrust. This allowed an increase in take-off weight to 9,200lbs, from 8,000lbs while the vertical thrust remained 15% above the take-off weight.Performance was again increased, to 198 miles range, or 42 hops. Once again, the complexity of the engine installation was enough for rejection.

The final version considered was to be fitted with a single top-fan RB.162, and a horizontally mounted RB.172 engine for flight. This combination gave the best operational performance, and accordingly, was the version tendered to the requirement.
Unfortunately, when the top-fan RB.162, now renamed the RB.175, was finally run in 1962, it's thrust was only 8,800lbs, insufficient for the H.P.120, which was accordingly abandoned.


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Do you see a possible legacy from a certain WW2 air-mobile assault that, uh, over-reached its support ??
 

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I said it here....................... ;D ;)


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