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Boeing 737 Development Concepts

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Hi,

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2006/02/07/204505/the-737-story-little-wonder.html
 

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Hi,

I found that book in google search and I found a strange info
about the two Boeing-737 configurations,I know they spoke
after that about the Sud Aviation Carrvelle,but notice the hint
under the drawing;

http://books.google.com.eg/books?id=NG2_qiSjmMEC&pg=PA418&dq=aircraft+design++2&lr=&num=100&as_brr=3&cd=6#v=onepage&q=aircraft%20design%20%202&f=true

Also I found on the pages 10 to 14,the M-184 jet airliner,and
I can't ID this aircraft.
 

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XB-70 Guy said:
Could the M-plane be from Martin?

Definitely not in that timespan! (Martin's Model 184 was a 1944 project).
Besides, Martin never used the M- as a prefix, that was a mistake from magazines and historians!

M-184 seems like a Fairchild designation... and probably is, too. Other Fairchild projects of the same era were the M-185, M-186 and M-225.

Hesham, if you can post a picture of that M-184, we can see if it holds any commonality with the other Fairchild designs.
 

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Model of Boeing 737 concept at the Boeing Archives.

From the picture caption on Flickr:
Boeing looked at making a rear engined 737.

Source:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/airlinereporter/4956930739/in/set-72157624753056369/
 

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It kills me that all those models are stacked in a storeroom...
 

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Realistically - and historically - the alternative would be to either throw them out or destroy them. It's rare for an American aerospace company to give a damn about keeping such things.
 

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True - you only have so much space. Wish I could get a job dusting that room.
 

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Model of Boeing 737 concept located at the Boeing Archives Bellevue, Washington.

Source:
http://airchive.com/html/museums/boeing-archives-bellevue-washington-usa/boeing-737-rear-twin-engine-development-model-mid-1960s/19073
 

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Model of Boeing 737-200 concept located at the Boeing Archives Bellevue, Washington.

Source:
http://airchive.com/html/museums/boeing-archives-bellevue-washington-usa/boeing-737-200-overwing-engine-model-at-boeing-archive-mid-1960s/19078
 

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Strange coincidence, that the nose of the version with the rear mounted engines looks much closer
to the much later "Boeing 717", although the fuselage diameter seems to have been the same for
all versions.

(blowup of the nose comes from a photo from http://www.sxf-spotterlempio.de/Diafundus.htm )
 

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Triton said:
Boeing 717 as in the re-branded McDonnell Douglas MD-95? Or are you referring to another Boeing 717?

No, I meant the MD-95, or actually the "DC 9", as shown in the lower part of the photo.
 

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Didn't know such models still existed, the forward/overwing nacelle configuration is new to me. There's a past issue from Air International that has pictures and line drawings of the design evolution. Gonna have to go digging in the library for those.

The rear-engined T-tail version I believe is an early design study for five-abreast seating before Jack Steiner went for six-abreast seating to use the 707 fuselage cross-section/nose for two reasons- to save on development costs and time because Douglas was two years ahead of Boeing on the DC-9 and Steiner (with Joe Sutter's help) had determined that six-abreast seating offered better operational costs.

When they switched over to a six-abreast fuselage, the rear engined placement became more problematic. The model in the back left of the first shot *might* be one of the rear-engined six-abreast designs with a low set tailplane.
 

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Electric driven nose wheel

To help speed things up, Stirling Dynamics has contracted with WheelTug to design a new nose wheel for Boeing's 737NG jet airliner. The new wheel will contain electric motors powered by the aircraft's Auxiliary Power Unit (APU)

 

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Boeing 737-100 in USAF Military Airlift Command livery (but never ordered for MAC, only as CT-43), scale 1/100 (source: P. LaCicero). Made in the mid 1960s from resin, by Precise Models?

aviation.watergeek.eu/topping_inc.html
 

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With regards as to the 737-200, looks like it will be with us for a while yet, especially our Canadian friends:

 

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Flew on one of those to a diamond mine which is near the Arctic Circle a few years ago. We landed and took off on a gravel runway. You can see the 'gravel kit' in the picture above. You actually see more of the -200's converted as freighters up there.

OOPs, should have watched the video first. Four of those airlines shown I used to see at YYC (Calgary International) when I worked there (up to November 2018) and I've seen most of the -200s too
 
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That explanation is at least 9 minutes too long but he does love his own voice. ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 

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Here's a brochure produced fairly late in the development of the world's most successful jetliner 737-100 showing a different aft fuselage profile. Since the 707, all Boeing jetliners (the 727 doesn't count) have had a similar upswept rear fuselage, but this drawing shows that this wasn't always a given. It seems kind of dumpy-looking in this configuration and I think that the final shape is an aesthetic improvement. I wonder if this was a purely engineering-driven change or if someone insisted on more of a family resemblance for marketing reasons.
737 early configuration.PNG
 
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