Bernard designations

[c460]

Here is a list of Bernard designations. The main sources are the book Les avions Bernard by Liron, and the articles by Claveau in Trait d'Union no.146 (and 205).

Main aircraft companies founded by Adolphe Bernard:

• Établissements Adolphe Bernard Company created in 1917 to manufacture Spad fighters.
  
• Société Industrielle des Métaux et du Bois (SIMB) Nicknamed Ferbois. Active from 1919 to 1926, made aircraft from 1922.
  
• Société des Avions Bernard (SAB) Active from 1927 to 1935.

The former Bernard design team was dispersed after 1935. Georges Bruner and Jean Galtier were briefly hired by Fouga, then Bruner worked for Gourdou and Galtier went to Arsenal. Roger Robert went to CAPRA, predecessor of Matra.

Bernard aircraft

• AB.1 Biplane bomber, two Hispano 180 hp engines. One prototype and ten series production aircraft.
  
• AB.2 Variant of the AB.1 with two Hispano 200 hp engines. Project only.
  
• AB.3 Mail transport derivative of the AB.1, two Hispano 180 hp engines. Not sure if built.
  
• AB.3 M Large twin boom monoplane bomber with three Hispano 12 G engines, two tractor and one pusher. One example started but unfinished.
  
• AB.3 T Civilian transport derivative of the AB.3 M, with three tractor engines. Project only.
  
• AB.4 Passenger trapnsport variant of the AB.3, two Hispano 200 hp. One example partly built.
  
• V.1 (V = Vitesse) Monoplane racer, Lorraine 12 E. One built for the 1924 Coupe Beaumont.
  
• V.2 Monoplane racer, Hispano 12 Gb. One built, won the world speed record in 1924.
  
• V.3 Monoplane racer project, retractable gear, Lorraine engine. Project only.
  
• V.4 Monoplane racer for the landbased world speed record. One built in 1933, converted from HV.120 no.1, never flew.
  
• AB C1 Single-seat low-wing monoplane fighter, Hispano 300 hp engine. One example built, became the AB.10.
  
• AB.10 C1 One example, converted from the AB C1 with larger wings and fin.
  
• AB.10 T Three-engine monoplane flying boat for commercial transport, Lorraine 320 hp tractor engines. Construction unfinished.
  
• AB.12 C1 Derivative of the AB.10 C1 with GR Jupiter 420 hp engine. One example built.
  
• AB.14 C1 Single-seat sesquiplane fighter, Hispano 12 Hb 500 hp engine. One example built.
  
• AB.15 C1 Derivative of the AB.14 with smaller wings, same engine. One example built.
  
• AB.16 Colonial aircraft, three Salmson 9 Abd engines. Unsure if built.
  
• Name unknown Two-engine monoplane transport for 12 passengers, with Hispano 350 hp. Project only.
  
• 18 T High-wing cantilever transport aircraft, one GR 9 Ab engine. The first example was exclusively used as a long-distance aircraft, named "Oiseau Tango" then "Ingénieur Hubert". The second example was used for static testing.
  
• 18 T bis Projected evolution of the 18 T, became the 190.
  
• 18 GR Semi-official name for the 18 T modified as a long-distance aircraft (GR = Grand Raid).
  
• 181 GR Long-distance aircraft, derivative of the 18 T with Hispano 500 hp engine. Project only.
  
• 190 T Transport aircraft, enlarged derivative of the 18 T, GR 9Ady 420 hp engine. Eight built.
  
• 191 T Variant of the 190 T with Hispano 12 Ga. One example started, finished as the 191 GR no.3.
  
• 191 GR Long-distance aircraft, derivative of the 190 T, Hispano 12 Lb 600 hp engine. Three examples built, no.1 "France", no.2 "Oiseau Canari" that crossed the Atlantic, no.3 was the converted 191 T.
  
• 192 T Variant of the 190 T with GR 9 Akx 480 hp.
  
• 193 T Variant of the 190 T with Lorraine 12 Eb 450 hp.
  
• 194 T Variant of the 190 T with Renault 12 Ja 450 hp.
  
• 195 T Variant of the 190 T with Farman 12 We 500 hp.
  
• 197 GR Long-distance aircraft, similar to the 191 GR with Lorraine 12 Eb 450 hp engine. One examples built, no.1 "France-Indochine".
  
• 20 C1 Single-seat mid-wing monoplane fighter, Hispano 12 Jb 400 hp engine. One example built.
  
• 30 T Twin-boom four-engine transport aircraft, four Hispano 18 Sb 1000 hp. Project only.
  
• HV.40 High-speed single-seat seaplane, GR 9K Mistral. One built in 1929 as a trainer for the Schneider team.
  
• HV.41 Evolution of the HV.40 with Hispano 12-cylinder engine. One built in 1929 as a trainer for the Schneider team.
  
• HV.42 Evolution of the HV.41. Three built in 1929 as a trainer for the Schneider team.
  
• H.52 Single-seat floatplane fighter, GR 9 Kdrs engine. Two examples built.
  
• 60 T Three-engine high-wing transport aircraft, with one GR Jupiter and two GR Titan. One example built, engines later replaced by three GR Titan Major.
  
• 61 T Evolution of the 60 T with metal fuselage, three GR 7 Kb. One example built.
  
• 70 Single-seat monoplane fighter, GR 5 Bc 240 hp engine. Nicknamed "Super Jockey". Two examples were ordered, one was used for structural tests, the other was completed as the S.72.
  
• 71 Variant of the 70 with GR 5 Kb supercharged engine. Project only.
  
• S.72 Single-seat sports aircraft for racing and aerobatics, GR Titan engine, 1930. One built, conversion of the 70 C1.
  
• S.73 Sports aircraft for racing and aerobatics, conversion of the S.72 with GR 7Kb engine, 1931.
  
• 74 C1 Fighter derivative of the S.73, with GR 7 Kbs 360 hp engine. Two examples built.
  
• 74 S Aerobatics aircraft, conversion of the second 74 C1, with GR 7 Kc.
  
• 75 C1 Single-seat fighter, conversion of the first 74 C1, with GR 9 Kbrs.
  
• 80 GR Long-distance mid-wing monoplane, Hispano 12 Nb 650 hp. One example built, named "Oiseau Tango".
  
• 81 GR Improved version of the 80 GR, Hispano 12 Nbr 650 hp. One example converted from the 80 GR, named "Antoine Paillard" then "Oiseau Canari II".
  
• 81 Bn3 Bomber variant of the 81 GR, unconfirmed project.
  
• 82 B3 Bomber derivative of the 81 GR, Hispano 12 Y 860 hp engine. Two examples built, no.02 was converted into the 86.
  
• 82 Jumo Other name for the 82 no.02 converted with Jumo engine, see 86.
  
• 83 Three-engine mail transport derivative of the 82 B3, three GR 7 Kds 360 hp. Project only.
  
• 84 GR Version of the 81 GR with Gnome-Rhône 14 Kfs 900 hp radial engine. Conversion of the 81 GR was announced but perhaps not completed.
  
• 85 Unconfirmed name for a two-engine bomber derivative of the 82.
  
• 86 Experimental long-distance aircraft with Diesel engine. One example, converted from the 82 B3 no.02 by the engine company CLM. First had a Jumo 205 535 hp, then a CLM 6 As 560 hp.
  
• 88 Derivative of the 83 with three Diesel engines CLM 6 As 560 hp. Project by CLM studied after Bernard's demise.
  
• 90 BR Two-engine monoplane bomber, two GR 14 Kfs 900 hp.
  
• HV.100 Flying boat racer for the Schneider Trophy, with two push-pull Farman 18 T engines. Project only. (Name HV.100 mentioned in Trait d'Union no.205.)
  
• H.110 Single-seat floatplane fighter, evolved from the H.52, Hispano 9 Vbs engine. One example built.
  
• HV.120 Seaplane racer, HS 18 R. Two built in 1929 for the Schneider Trophy.
  
• HV.120-1 Name sometimes used for the second HV.120 with gear-reduced engine.
  
• 160 High-wing colonial aircraft with three GR 7 Kb, evolved from the 60 T. One built, flew in 1932.
  
• 161 Version of the 160 with three Lorraine 9 Na. One built, flew in 1932.
  
• 170 V Lightweight racer project, 1930.
  
• 170 Designation re-used in 1935 for a two-engine rapid bomber, project only.
  
• 200 T High-wing tourism aircraft, DH Gipsy III 120 hp engine. Four examples started, converted into 201 T, 205 T or 207 T.
  
• 200 TS Variant of the 200 T with leading edge slats. Project only.
  
• 201 T Variant of the 200 T with DH Gipsy Major I 135 hp engine. Two examples, converted from 200 T no.1 and 4.
  
• 202 T Variant of the 200 T with Chaise 4 A 100 hp engine, not built.
  
• 203 T Variant of the 200 T with Chaise 4 B 120 hp engine, not built.
  
• 204 T Variant of the 200 T with Renault 4 Pdi 120 hp engine, not built.
  
• 205 T Variant of the 201 T with the same engine and a three-blade propeller. One example, converted from 201 T no.1.
  
• 206 T Unknown, speculated by Jean Liron as a floatplane or radial engine variant.
  
• 207 T Variant of the 201 T with reinforced wing. Two examples, converted from 200 T no.2 and 3.
  
• 210 T Planned version of the 207 T license built in Britain, project only.
  
• HV.220 Seaplane racer with Lorraine 12 Rcr Radium engine, for the 1931 Schneider Cup. Airframe was finished and assembled but the engine was never delivered.
  
• 260 C1 Single-seat low-wing monoplane fighter, HS 12 Xbrs engine. One example built.
  
• 261 C1 Derivative of the 260 with HS 12 Ybrs and retractable gear. One example started but unfinished.
  
• 262 C1 Carrier-borne fighter, derivative of the 260 with GR 9 Kdrs. Project only.
  
• 290 T All-metal derivative of the 190 T, project only.
  
• HV.300 Seaplane racer for the Schneider Trophy, with two tandem Hispano 18 Sb engines inside the fuselage hull.
  
• HV.320 Seaplane racer with Renault 12 Ncr engine, for the 1931 Schneider Cup. Construction started but not finished, engine not available.
  
• H.340 Bn5 Four-engine bomber and torpedo floatplane, two fins, four GR engines. Project only.
  
• 370 Racer for the 1934 Coupe Deutsch, Salmson 12-cylinder engine. Project only, one mock-up built.
  
• 500 T Derivative of the 200 T with more classical landing gear legs. Project only.

Other aircraft related to Bernard

• SAB.1 Single-seat biplane fighter, 1918, five examples built. This project was undertaken by Béchereau, Blériot, Bernard and Birkigt in cooperation. I'm not sure of the meaning of the initials SAB: some Internet sources say "Société et Ateliers Béchereau" but this is unconfirmed.
  
• CPA 1 High-wing twin engine light attack ("combat") and observation aircraft, 1926. One example built by the Chantiers de Provence Aviation, another company founded by Adolphe Bernard together with the Chantiers et Ateliers de Provence shipbuilding company.

 

[hesham]

Well done my dear Adrien.

 

[Stargazer]

Gosh!! You've been busy! Brilliant stuff, thank you so much, c460.

 

[hesham]

Also from Onera Archive,

90H was a seaplane of flying boat Project of 1929,maybe developed from Type-90 ?
140,140H & 140Mod was a three airplanes,a landplane and a seaplane
also there was a modified version Projects from 1932 ?
340H maybe a seaplane version of Type-340 BN.5,Project of 1933 ?
50 or H-50 maybe proceeded H-52,was a single seat seaplane fighter
Project of 1932 ?
Four-Eng was a four engined seaplane or flying boat Project ?

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[Apophenia]

90H was a seaplane of flying boat Project of 1929,maybe developed from Type-90 ?

If by 'Type-90' you are referring to the 90 BR, it would be the other way around. The Bernard 90 hydravion dates from 1929, the Bombardier de Représailles (Reprisal Bomber) programme from 1933. Since this hydravion predates the 90 BR by four years, the question becomes: Was the 1933 Bombardier de Représailles a land-based development of the earlier Bernard 90 hydravion?

That said, I think we need to be very careful about using short forms that resemble official designations - eg: '90H', '140Mod', '340H', etc. The ONERA (L'Office National d'Etudes et de Recherches Aéronautiques) pdf ONERA: Essais en Soufflerie lists the designation the type numbers 90, 140, and 340 with 'Hydravion' solely as their description. (ONERA also lists the type 140 and 340 as 'Avion' but we feel no compulsion to create a '140A' or '340A' designation.)

Where Bernard applied 'H' for hydravion, it seems always to be as a prefix (eg: the H.50 listed by ONERA, the H.52 float-fighter, or HV.100 - for Hydravion de Vitesse - flying boat racer). So, it possible that a built Bernard 90 may well have been designated 'H.90' ... but we have no evidence for that. Ditto for the '140H' and.

There are similar issues with '140Mod'. ONERA lists "140 modifié", obviously refering to a variant of the original 140 landplane (or its wind tunnel model). When existing Bernard types were given minor modifications, they seem always to take on a new role designator suffix - eg: Bernard 18 T modified for distance flying becomes the 18 GR (Grand Raid). More serious modification of the Bernard 18 T were first indicated by bis ('again') as in 18 T bis or re-designated (as, in this case, the Bernard 190 T).

340H maybe a seaplane version of Type-340 BN.5,Project of 1933 ?

Same issue, the 1933 340 BN 5 was likely a derivative of that 1929 340 hydravion. Oh, and the undated four-engined seaplane is listed as Quadrimoteur, not 'Four-Eng'.

There are also some glitches in the ONERA listings. The V 3, HV 40, and HV 41 - all wind tunnel tested in 1929 - show up with numeral prefixes '9' or '12'. Other than that '9' or '12', there is no change in the listings. Under the '9' prefix, the V 3 bis also shows up (a variant which is not on c460's designation list). There is also a glitch in the C1 chasseurs monoplaces suffix listings where the '1' is displayed as a superscript ... Okay, pedant-mode off

Another designation of interest in the ONERA listings is the Bernard 15 C1 hydravion wind tunnel tested in 1929. Presumably, Bernard was considering a float fighter derivative ... but why three years after the SIMB AB 15 prototype had flown?

Undesignated in the ONERA listing is the twin-engined Bernard-Ferbois hydravion wind tunnel tested in 1926. I presume that this would be a float version of the "Bernard-Ferbois V 2 racer? (I rule out a V 3 derivative only because that design was wind tunnel tested in 1929.)

 

[hesham]

From Aviation magazine 1957,

I found this strange designation,HV.45,also in Avions magazine,they mentioned the same thing ?.

 

[Schneiderman]

The Bernard HV.45 was a twin-float trainer for the HV.42 Schneider Trophy racer.

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/bernard-projects.7904/page-2#post-199506

But that is not what it says in your link

 

[hesham]

From Aviation magazine 1960,

here is the list,and we can add AB.13T & HV.47.

 

[Schneiderman]

I think we have already shown that HV47 is a mistake, a misreading of HV41.

 

[hesham]

From Aviation magazine 1960,

So weird,

in this list,Bernard Type-60 was developed at first as single engined
transport airplane,later improved into three engined.

Also Type-260 at first was powered by one 500 hp Hispano-Suiza 12
Xbrs engine and had a rounded wing tips, later developed with 690 hp
Hispano-Suiza 12 Xbrs engine and square wing with front radiator.

 

[hesham]

From Onera archive,

I think both of those airplanes are the same (four engined),but one was a seaplane and the other was a landplane,please see wing tunnel number ?,
and definitely they were from 1923/24.

 

[Apophenia]

From Onera archive,

I think both of those airplanes are the same (four engined),but one was a seaplane and the other was a landplane,please see wing tunnel number ?,
and definitely they were from 1923/24.

Sorry, I'm having trouble following some your reasoning here.

"I think both of those airplanes are the same (four engined) ..."

Can we accurately draw that conclusion solely from these two wind tunnel models being included in N° rapport 180/A? Related airframe shapes makes sense but plenty of related models are tested with differing numbers of nacelles (or even interchangeable model parts). Or have I missed something here?

"please see wing tunnel number ?,"

Yes, all three models in your clipping shown testing in 2012 ZN 85 1 - soufflerie n°1 (aka S1) at the Institut Aérotechnique (IAT) at Saint-Cyr. But so too were more than 60 other entries in that ONERA list.

"and definitely they were from 1923/24."

I assume that your certainty about dates is based on rapport 140/A being from 1923 while rapport 188/A was from 1924? That makes sense. So why does ONERA's 'Date' column lists "s.d." (sans date)?

If report numbering was sequential, the date would clearly be 1924 - witness rapports 173/A, 177/A, 182/A, and 188/A - all tested in 2012 ZN 85 1 during 1924. Those report numbers bracket 180/A. But ONERA doesn't draw this seemingly obvious conclusion in Série 5 F 9. Perhaps they just missed the connections?

 

[Bazinga]

Also from Onera Archive,

90H was a seaplane of flying boat Project of 1929,maybe developed from Type-90 ?
140,140H & 140Mod was a three airplanes,a landplane and a seaplane
also there was a modified version Projects from 1932 ?
340H maybe a seaplane version of Type-340 BN.5,Project of 1933 ?
50 or H-50 maybe proceeded H-52,was a single seat seaplane fighter
Project of 1932 ?
Four-Eng was a four engined seaplane or flying boat Project ?

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MINISTERE DE LA DEFENSE SERVICE HISTORIQUE DE LA DEFENSE Centre des Archives de l Armement et du Personnel Civil SERIE 5 F ZN 85 1 à 104 ONERA : ARCHIVES DES ESSAIS EN SOUFFLERIE Répertoire

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[Bazinga]

1960 Aviation Magazine articles

 

[dan_inbox]

Thanks for those very interesting scans, Bazinga.

Surprising name for Bernard 82, "bombardier de représailles" sounds like a forerunner of the infamous Vergeltungswaffe. Vergeltungsbombenflugzeug ?

 

[hesham]

From George Messier's site,

Three Engines was a three engined airplane project of 1928/29,may it was
a transport,Model-130 ?.