Artemis Moon Program

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A new MSS would not be archaic hardware, that would be the unmodified Apollo MSS if it hadn't been scrapped and maintained.
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Yes, it is archaic. Unneeded, mobile launcher not designed correctly. Not feasible to be maintained nor was the configuration usable for SLS
 
Philip Sloss has uploaded a new video concerning NASA's upcoming Artemis news conference tomorrow:


NASA announced an Artemis update news conference tomorrow, not just about the next few weeks for Artemis II, but about plans after this next mission. This is the first time the space agency has addressed the big picture in over a year, and comes right after the Aerospace Safety Advisory Panel recommended changes to the plan for Artemis III.​
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In this video I'll provide an overview of what to watch for in the briefing tomorrow, especially given the many current mysteries about Artemis status and schedules.​
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The Aerospace Safety Advisory Panel annual report for 2025 can be found here:
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00:00 Intro
00:35 Aerospace Safety Advisory Panel recommending Artemis III changes
03:25 Looking for updates about missions, schedules, programs, and hardware
06:40 Some context going into tomorrow's news conference
08:16 How many status and schedule blanks will tomorrow's news conference fill in?
09:45 Will NASA provide regular updates going forward?
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Ars Technica: NASA shakes up its Artemis program to speed up lunar return [Feb 27]

The announced changes to the Artemis program include:
• Cancellation of the Exploration Upper Stage and Block IB upgrade for SLS rocket
• Artemis II and Artemis III missions will use the SLS rocket with existing upper stage
• Artemis IV, V (and any additional missions, should there be) will use a “standardized” upper stage
• Artemis III will no longer land on the Moon; rather Orion will launch on SLS and dock with Starship and/or Blue Moon landers in low-Earth orbit
• Artemis IV is now the first lunar landing mission
• NASA will seek to fly Artemis missions annually, starting with Artemis III in “mid” 2027, followed by at least one lunar landing in 2028
• NASA is working with SpaceX and Blue Origin to accelerate their development of commercial lunar landers for Artemis IV and beyond

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With its previous Artemis template, NASA skipped the steps taken by Apollo 7, 9, and 10. In the view of many industry officials, this leap from Artemis II—a crewed lunar flyby of the Moon testing only the SLS rocket and Orion spacecraft—to Artemis III and a full-on lunar landing was enormous and risky.

The new approach will, in NASA parlance, “buy down” some of the risk for a 21st-century lunar landing, including performance and handling of a lunar lander, rendezvous and docking, communications, spacesuit performance, and more.

It will also increase the challenges before NASA. In particular, the timeline to bring the Orion spacecraft to readiness for a mid-2027 launch will need to be accelerated, and efforts to integrate that vehicle with one or both of the lander providers will need serious attention.
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Cancellation of the Exploration Upper Stage and Block IB upgrade for SLS rocket
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Means that SLS later is replace by Starship and New Glenn (New Armstrong)
and huge cost reduction on program

Artemis II and Artemis III missions will use the SLS rocket with existing upper stage
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again huge cost reduction on program

Artemis IV, V (and any additional missions, should there be) will use a “standardized” upper stage
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i guess that's existing upper stage only cheaper ?

Artemis III will no longer land on the Moon; rather Orion will launch on SLS and
dock with Starship and/or Blue Moon landers in low-Earth orbit
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Apollo 9/10 style mission that test the Landers in Orbit, fine, better get bugs out in Low orbit instead during landing !

Artemis IV is now the first lunar landing mission
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For what lander is ready in 2028

NASA will seek to fly Artemis missions annually, starting with Artemis III in “mid” 2027,
Followed by at least one lunar landing in 2028
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Oh Crap Boeing must speed up thing to get annually launch ready
NASA is working with SpaceX and Blue Origin to accelerate their development
of commercial lunar landers for Artemis IV and beyond
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This imply that SLS will be replace in 2030s by Starship and New Armstrong
Even manned Mars expedition
 
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That could at least remain for whatever comes after.

Stoke isn’t afraid of hydrogen like Elon is. I could see them take over one day.
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The ONLY thing hydrogen has going for it is ISP. Everything else is down side. More difficult to work with, low energy density (which is why hydrogen fueled rockets are huge), and expensive. Only reason to use hydrogen is if performance is the only thing that matters. Best compromise is hydrocarbon lower stage and hydrogen upper stage. "Oh, Elon is scared of hydrogen" is just childish EDS.
 
Now that EUS is (supposed to be) off the table, maybe Stoke could have a shot.

A run-down
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The scuttlebutt is that Boeing's Exploration Upper Stage is off the table...that is supposed to replace the Delta IV second stage, like the one that forced the roll-back. ULA made that. Centaur maybe?. The EUS would be more rugged...but everyone is just piling on at this point.
 
The renders they released showed a Centaur V as the new second stage for SLS. Biggest question is Congress. EUS has been under threat before and Congress has always saved it. In fact, EUS is currently law right now so the NASA Admin can't even cancel it unilaterally. I think the NASA authorization bill is working its way through Congress right now so the response should be pretty quick.
 
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As I said: you seem extremely confident that SpaceX won’t increase the flight rate,
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It looks like NASA just agreed with me. They cancelled the moon landing for Artemis 3 as SpaceX can't increase the flight rate.

I join the Artemis discussion and start talking negative. Then a week later negative news comes. What a coincidence.

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Crap Boeing must speed up thing to get annually launch ready
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Actually it is the exact opposite. Boeing was about to slow things down and fire half of its SLS work force. With NASA continuing to delay Artemis 3 launch because SpaceX won't be ready means Boeing can't start production for Artemis 4.

NASA has just turned Artemis 3 into a test flight with the sole purpose of using up the SLS rocket under construction. This is simply to maintain jobs as SpaceX can't increase the flight rate.

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This imply that SLS will be replace in 2030s by Starship and New Armstrong
Even manned Mars expedition
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Hopefully China hasn't claimed all the good landing spots by then.
 
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The renders they released showed a Centaur V as the new second stage for SLS.
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Before the Centaur V can be used on the SLS it needs to be crew-rated.

Scott Manley has just uploaded a Deep Space updates video, the Artemis programme is mentioned from 3:32 to 9:36 in the video:


I usually like to cover all the launches, but it was only Starlink, so the real stories are in the rest of the video, but this morning NASA delivered a bombshell of a press conference radically changing SLS and Artemis plans.There's a few updates on Scotland's launch site at Saxa Vord which may one day launch rockets. And A really embarrassing problem for Lockheed.​
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0:00 - Hullo it's Scott Manley here
0:14 - Oops! All Starlink!
1:19 - Cargo Dragon Sets New Record
3:32 - Artemis II Delayed Again
5:51 - Breaking News! Major Changes to Artemis!
9:36 - Zenk Space's Test Fire
11:11 - A Solar Eclipse From Space!
12:18 - Orbex Publishes Photos of Equipment
12:55 - Skyrora's Hotfire Test
13:47 - Rocket Factory Augsburg's New Facility
14:40 - Perseverance Gets Mars GPS?
15:42 - Michael Finke Admits to Medical Issue
16:49 - Tory Bruno Shares Blue Ring Photos
17:56 - Vulcan Launches Paused
18:24 - SpaceX Tank Washes up in Madagascar?
20:05 - RocketLab's Earnings Report
21:47 - Lockheed's Off-By-180 Error
23:07 - Upcoming Events!
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insidersource said:
It looks like NASA just agreed with me. They cancelled the moon landing for Artemis 3 as SpaceX can't increase the flight rate.
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That's remarkably motivated reasoning and can't be adduced from the evidence.
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I join the Artemis discussion and start talking negative. Then a week later negative news comes. What a coincidence.
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If you think you're the only one who's been negative towards Artemis, you're years too late. I've written plenty of criticism myself.
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Actually it is the exact opposite. Boeing was about to slow things down and fire half of its SLS work force. With NASA continuing to delay Artemis 3 launch because SpaceX won't be ready means Boeing can't start production for Artemis 4.
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Boeing has already begun work on hardware for Artemis 4.
insidersource said:
NASA has just turned Artemis 3 into a test flight with the sole purpose of using up the SLS rocket under construction. This is simply to maintain jobs as SpaceX can't increase the flight rate.
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The SLS program's primary goal from the start has been to maintain jobs. More realistically, the change is because the SLS program is so hardware-poor that Isaacman wants more flight data versus going with PRAs.
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Hopefully China hasn't claimed all the good landing spots by then.
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They haven't a fraction of the lift capacity to do that, and they won't by 2030, 2035, or 2040. No one will.
 
Descoping A3 is good, the HLS were never going to be ready in time anyway.

Not making a dummy for A3 and keeping the ICPS for A4 is bad however, can't trust ULA and Boeing to deliver a new upper stage in 2 years, yeah building and qualifying an inert dummy would delay A3 a bit, but it's not like any element, SLS, HLS demo or Orion, are going to be ready for mid 2027.

Changing the main intermediary requirement of the HLS demo from a lunar landing to a docking is also not ideal,

Descoping take balls, I like it, what takes even more of them is admiting Artemis won't return until after Trump's term, I'm not expecting the later from this administration.

I know the administration wants to kill gateway, but New Glenn 9x4 makes EUS kinda obsolete anyway, since it can launch the gateway modules with a space tug (modified Blue Ring?).
 
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Not making a dummy for A3
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NASA could refurbish and use the ICPS ground-test article as a dummy but do keep in mind that the ICPS is needed to circularise the Orion CSM unless the SLS's first-stage burn profile is modified so it ends in a LEO with a perigee of at leat 75 miles.

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They'd need to build a fourth ICPS (NASA only ordered three, IMO a mistake as I think they should've ordered at least as a backup in case of problems with the EUS) also the EUS ground-test article is in final assembly and I suspect that production of the first EUS flight-article is already underway (I won't be surprised at all if the Senate overrides Isaacman's cancellation order for the EUS).​
 
The Infographics Show has an interesting video out concerning Artemis II's CM's heat shield issues:


NASA is about to send astronauts back to the Moon, but not everyone believes it’s safe.
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In this episode, we reveal the real reason why Nasa is sending people back to the Moon.After Artemis I returned with unexpected heat shield damage, critics warned that Artemis II could be a serious gamble. Instead of redesigning the hardware, NASA adjusted the flight profile, and pressed forward.​
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So why the rush?
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Because this mission isn’t just about science. It’s about geopolitics, billions of dollars, and a growing space race with China.Is this the next giant leap for humanity, or a dangerous bet under pressure?​
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0:19 - Artemis I Heat Shield Failure
2:59 - Flying with a Known Flaw
3:22 - Columbia Warning
5:50 - The China Space Race
7:19 - Politics & $93 Billion Pressure
8:22 - No Lifeboat in Deep Space
11:19 - SpaceX vs NASA
11:59 - Reentry: The Moment of Truth
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Narrated by: Josh Risser
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FighterJock said:
Let's see how long the work to repair Artemis 2 takes. Not long I would think Flyaway, NASA still has the March launch window open.
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No, it's been delayed to april
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NASA Adds Mission to Artemis Lunar Program, Updates Architecture - NASA

As part of a Golden Age of exploration and discovery, NASA announced Friday the agency is increasing its cadence of missions under the Artemis program to
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The announcement came during a news conference at NASA Kennedy where leaders also discussed the status of the Artemis II mission. NASA rolled the SLS and Orion spacecraft to the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) on Feb. 25 for repairs ahead of the next launch opportunities for the test flight in April.
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NCQ said:
The renders they released showed a Centaur V as the new second stage for SLS. Biggest question is Congress. EUS has been under threat before and Congress has always saved it. In fact, EUS is currently law right now so the NASA Admin can't even cancel it unilaterally. I think the NASA authorization bill is working its way through Congress right now so the response should be pretty quick.
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I wonder if you could perch a Centaur atop an EUS for an interstellar precursor.

Cruz and others can wait out Trump and company.

The graphic here is funny. I don't think Orion needs to dock there:

Blue Moon Lunar Lander - Crew Version

Blue Moon Lunar Lander - Crew Version
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publiusr said:
I wonder if you could perch a Centaur atop an EUS for an interstellar precursor.
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It's possible but you could also use a solid-propellant third-stage, something like a Star-37 or Star-48.

NASA has put out a brief news conference concerning the repairs needed for the Artemis II ICPS stage for an April launch:


Dr. Lori Glaze, NASA's Moon to Mars program manager, explains the fixes needed to get the Artemis 2 SLS rocket back on the pad for an April launch Credit: NASA
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Philip Sloss has uploaded a new video concerning NASA's new Artemis plan:


NASA announced the decision to change their Artemis plans for the rest of the decade, but they didn't elaborate as much as outline new missions and a new SLS upper stage. The new plans have a long history, but we didn't hear about any revisions to the missions from reporting about them going back to 2024 and the previous administration. Now we wait for new information about the implications and consequences for all the Artemis programs, and confirmation about who else the White House has onboard for the new plan.​
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00:00 Intro
01:45 Artemis II Watch
05:59 NASA outlines changes to their Artemis plans for the rest of decade, but details are sparse
07:36 Congress gave NASA permission to study EUS alternatives in the current budget
08:50 The decision to change is new, but the revised plans have a long history
11:16 The new SLS upper stage who shall remain nameless
14:01 Does the new plan mean Gateway and EUS are dead? Is this an FY 2027 preview?
15:09 No new information about the current status and schedules for Artemis III, IV, and V hardware production or design development
16:37 Thanks for watching!
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With NASA’s Artemis II SLS (Space Launch System) rocket and Orion spacecraft in the Vehicle Assembly Building at the agency’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida, technicians have accessed the launch vehicle stage adapter to inspect components that prevented helium from flowing to the upper stage after a Feb. 21 wet dress rehearsal.

Engineers determined a seal in the quick disconnect, through which helium flows from the ground systems to the rocket, was obstructing the pathway. The team removed the quick disconnect, reassembled the system, and began validating the repairs to the upper stage by running a reduced flow rate of helium through the mechanism to ensure the issue was resolved. Engineers are assessing what allowed the seal to become dislodged to prevent the issue from recurring.

While the upper stage repair has been underway, technicians also have been working to refresh other systems on the rocket. They are activating a new set of flight termination system batteries ahead of end-to-end retesting of the system and also are replacing the flight batteries on the upper stage, core stage, and solid rocket boosters, and charging the Orion launch abort system batteries. Work to replace a seal on the core stage liquid oxygen line feed system began March 2. Once complete, teams will reassemble the oxygen tail service mast umbilical plate and perform various integrity tests to ensure the seal interface is tight.

Work on the rocket and spacecraft will continue in the coming weeks as NASA prepares for rolling the rocket out to the launch pad again later this month ahead of a potential launch in April.


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NASA Repairs Upper Stage Helium Flow, Preps Continue Ahead of Rollout
 
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NASA Strengthens Artemis: Adds Mission, Refines Overall Architecture

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To achieve the national goal of landing American astronauts on the surface of the Moon and maintaining U.S. superiority in exploration and discovery, NASA announced Feb. 27 it is increasing its cadence of missions under the Artemis program, standardizing the SLS (Space Launch System) rocket configuration, and adding a new mission.

The plans were shared during a news conference at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida, and included an update on the near-term mission, Artemis II.

This update focused on the transportation systems to take crew to the Moon. NASA’s latest architecture includes adding a new mission in 2027 to test system capabilities closer to home prior to sending astronauts to the surface of the Moon for the first time in more than 50 years and aims to achieve one lunar mission per year thereafter. Standardizing SLS and other systems now will help NASA send astronauts to explore the lunar South Pole for the first time in 2028.

Specific details to achieve this new approach as well as other architecture updates are forthcoming as the agency remains focused on the Artemis II mission around the Moon as early as April, and reviews capabilities to support an increased mission cadence.

Here are the basics for the first five missions under the Artemis program:

Artemis I: NASA successfully completed an uncrewed test flight of SLS rocket and Orion spacecraft in November 2022. This mission tested launching the rocket for the first time using new exploration ground systems and evaluated Orion systems not including astronauts or critical life support systems planned on the next mission.

Artemis II: The test flight will be the first flight with crew aboard the SLS rocket and Orion spacecraft. Following a successful wet dress rehearsal in February, NASA discovered a helium flow issue to the interim cryogenic propulsion stage and rolled the rocket and spacecraft back to the Vehicle Assembly Building for repairs. Engineers at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida are currently working on the stacked SLS rocket and Orion spacecraft to address the issue that required rollback, and teams also are taking the time to swap batteries and more. The next launch window opens in April. Crew members include NASA astronauts Reid Wiseman, Victor Glover, Christina Koch, and CSA (Canadian Space Agency) astronaut Jeremy Hansen to venture on an approximately 10-day mission that will send the around the Moon and back.

Artemis III: NASA added a new demonstration mission in low Earth orbit in mid-2027 to test one or both commercial landers from SpaceX and Blue Origin respectively. The mission will launch crew in Orion on top of the SLS rocket to test rendezvous and docking capabilities between Orion and private commercial spacecraft needed to land astronauts on the Moon. This test will take place with one or both providers.

Artemis IV: NASA continues to target the first Artemis lunar landing in early 2028, which has been the target landing date since mid-2025. After launch, crew will transfer from Orion to a commercial lunar lander for transportation to the surface of the Moon. Lander readiness will determine which provider will safely carry them to the surface and back to Orion in lunar orbit before crew return home aboard Orion – splashing down safely in the Pacific Ocean. Work to standardize the SLS rocket will be implemented for Artemis IV. With this architecture approach, NASA is assessing alternative options for the second stage of the rocket. The interim cryogenic propulsion stage used for the first three missions will be replaced with a new second stage, and the agency is no longer planning to use the Exploration Upper Stage or Mobile Launcher 2, as development of both has faced delays.

Artemis V: Using the standardized configuration of the SLS rocket, NASA anticipates launching this lunar surface mission by late 2028, and future missions about once per year thereafter. This mission also is when NASA is expected to begin building its Moon base.

NASA continues to refine its architecture plans, and the agency will share more information about its approach to lunar exploration and crew assignments in the future.

As part of Golden Age of innovation and exploration, NASA will send Artemis astronauts on increasingly difficult missions to explore more of the Moon for scientific discovery, economic benefits, and to build on our foundation for the first crewed missions to Mars.

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Who makes those leaky seals, again?

Gateway station
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The perils of political impatience in the Artemis program

The perils of political impatience in the Artemis program
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Philip Sloss has uploaded a new video concerning the changes to the Artemis programme:


In this video, I'll take a look at how Congress endorsed the new NASA Artemis plan, which looks a lot like last year's White House budget request. The new plan was partially announced on February 27th, and I'll also run through the programs and projects that are cancelled as a result. NASA was slow to speak to the fate of the SLS upgrades and Gateway elements that were terminated or orphaned...or didn't clarify some of the obvious implications of the plans that were announced.​
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The change in policy is a huge political win for the White House, but now NASA has to deliver three Artemis launches and land the next astronauts on the Moon in less than two years. What hasn't changed is that the U.S. government is dependent on private investments and infrastructure to supply a working, crew-rated lunar lander for those plans by the end of 2027.​
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00:00 Intro
02:45 NASA starts to acknowledge programs they are terminating as Congress signs up for the plan
05:07 EUS delays kept availability as a long-running question
06:39 Announcement of new NASA plan and new SLS upper stage avoided details, consequences, and implications
10:21 The White House finally wins their SLS argument with Congress
12:41 Will the lunar landers and the new SLS be ready in less than two years?
15:57 Government accounting website publicly announces Centaur V is the new SLS upper stage
19:39 Artemis II Watch
22:37 Thanks for watching!
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The ball is in SpaceX’s court now.

I hope Lunar Starship remains on the Moon as cargo only—-a more easily seen proof of Moon landings than rump LM descent stages left behind.

I hope they call it Camp Bonestell.

An interesting take
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Starliner and Artemis: commercial label vs. commercial discipline

Starliner and Artemis: commercial label vs. commercial discipline
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A comment
The article gets at something that plagues the space community broadly: the search for silver bullets. Prizes were supposed to fix everything, then "commercial" was supposed to fix everything. These winning secrets are things sometimes associated with success, but they're not magical incantations that create success in themselves. The confusion between causation and correlation produces a kind of magical thinking — that if we find the right buzzword, space will stop being hard.
 
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NASA to Share Artemis II Flight Readiness Review Update [Mar 9]

NASA will host a news conference at 3 p.m. EDT, Thursday, March 12, to highlight progress toward the Artemis II crewed mission around the Moon. The media briefing will take place from the agency’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida after the conclusion of an Artemis II Flight Readiness Review.

The news conference will stream live on the agency’s YouTube channel. Learn how to stream NASA content through a variety of online platforms, including social media, as available.

NASA participants include:
• Administrator Jared Isaacman
• Lori Glaze, acting associate administrator, Exploration Systems Development Mission Directorate
• John Honeycutt, chair, Artemis II Mission Management Team
• Shawn Quinn, manager, Exploration Ground Systems Program
• Norm Knight, director, Flight Operations Directorate
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