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AEG Aircraft Designations
- Allgemeine Elektricitäts-Gesellschaft, Flugzeugfabrik, Berlin-Hennigsdorf
Since this is the Designation Section, I will avoid listing projects - like the Aviatik-AEG triplane bomber - which remained unrealised and unnamed. However, I will list projects given names or descriptions for which there is no known internal AEG designation.
AEG Aircraft Designs with Names Only
AEG Igel - (Project) 1916 buried-engine reconnaissance aircraft*
- AEG Igel: Named for Mercedes Igel engine in Idflieg spec
- AEG Igel: 1 x 500 hp Mercedes Igel engine; span (??) m
- AEG Igel: Buried engine to shaft-drive 2 x outrigger propellers
-- * Idflieg preferred triplane but comparison cellules to be built
-- AEG chosen for steel constr.; then Idflieg decided too difficult
AEG Muskelkraft - 1919 man-powered ultralight aircraft; x 1
- AEG Muskelkraft: Parasol wing; pedal-powered tractor-prop
-- Muskelkraft (muscle strength) understood as man-powered
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/aeg-projects.19405/#post-187676
AEG-Hubschrauber - 1935 tethered rotary-wing observ./relay platform
-- Hubschrauber is more description than a name; R. Schmidt design
- AEG-Hubschrauber: Coaxial rotor blades powered by electric motor
- AEG-Hubschrauber: 50 hp 3-phase electric motor; rotor diam. 7.20 m
- AEG-Hubschrauber: 50 hp electric motor; upper rotor diam. 7.20 m
- AEG-Hubschrauber: 3 x tethers doubled as electrical power cords
- AEG-Hubschrauber: (I) 1st vers.; mobile longwave antenna carrier*
-- * Meant to maintain radio communication with submerged Uboats
- AEG-Hubschrauber: (II) 1940 revived project; rebuilt (I) prototype
- AEG-Hubschrauber: (II) 100 hp electric motor;** rotor diam. 7.62 m
-- ** 100 hp at 310 rotor rpm; then later to 200 hp at 450 rotor rpm
- AEG-Hubschrauber: (II) Abandoned due to its lack of lifting power
- AEG-Hubschrauber: (Project) Free-flying type with AEG gas turbine
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AEG Aircraft Designations - # & Werksbezeichnung
AEG #1 - 1910 mixed wood/steel-tube constr.* biplane; x 1
- AEG #1 : Oberingenieur Paul Stumpf design; conf. w/ Z 1
- AEG #1 : 4-bay biplane; chain-driven prop above engine
- AEG #1 : 1 x 70/75 hp Korting 8SL116 V8; span 17.50 m
- AEG #1 : Equal-span wings; open-framework fuselage
- AEG #1 : Online confusion between AEG #1 & AEG Z 1
-- * Based on exposure to all-wood framed Wright Flyer
AEG #2 - 1911 streamlined tandem-seat tractor biplane; x 1
- AEG #2 : Enclosed fuselage; 2.5-bay; overhanging uppers
- AEG #2 : 1 x 95 hp NAG Type F3 4-cyl.; span (??) m
- AEG #2 : Wings folded very compactly against fuselage
AEG Z 1 - 1913 streamlined 2-seat tractor biplane series*
-- * Oberingenieur Paul Stumpf design; series ran to Z 10
- AEG Z 1 : Zweidecker (2-winged) evol. from AEG #2
- AEG Z 1 : 1 x 70/75 hp Körting V8 (actually gave 65 hp)
- AEG Z 1 : Swept tip 2.5-bay wings; wing warping control
- AEG Z 2 : 1911 tandem 2-seat tractor biplane trainer; x ?
- AEG Z 2 : 1 x 95 hp NAG inline 4-cylinder; span 15.50 m
- AEG Z 2 : Similar to Z 1; reshaped fuselage & tailplane
- AEG Z 3 : Series; aka AEG B; upper wing ailerons;** x 2
- AEG Z 3 : 1 x 95 hp NAG (model?) 6-cyl.; span 15.50 m
- AEG Z 3 : Retained AEG #2/Z 1 wing-folding capability
-- ** Despite change to ailerons, swept-back tips retained
- AEG Z 4 : 191? tandem 2-seat tractor biplane trainer; x ?
- AEG Z 4 : 1 x (??) hp Mercedes (Daimler); span 14.50 m
- AEG Z 4 : Refined AEG Z 3 airframe; led to AEG Z 6/B I
- AEG Z 5 : 1914 Marineflieger floatplane;* Idflieg AEG S.I
-- * Orig. designed for cancelled 1914 Ostseeflug-Wettbewerb
- AEG Z 5 : Reinforce, higher-powered Z 3 w/ cruciform tail
- AEG Z 5 : 1 x 150 hp Benz Bz.III 6-cylinder; span 15.50 m
- AEG Z 5 : Overweight, poor climb rate; refused by Marine
- AEG Z 6 : 1914 refined AEG Z 3 trainer/unarmed recce a/c
- AEG Z 6 : aka Idflieg AEG B I; AEG Z 3/B repl.; x 6
- AEG Z 6 : 1 x 100 hp Benz FX/Bz II 6-cyl.; span 14.50 m
- AEG Z 6a: 1 x 100 hp Benz Bz III 6-cylinder; span 14.50 m
-- NB: Fliegertruppen + privately-owned AEG flying school
- AEG Z 7 : (??) hypothetical designation
- AEG Z 8 : (??) hypothetical designation
- AEG Z 9 : 1914 refined AEG Z 6 trainer/unarmed recce a/c
- AEG Z 9 : aka Idflieg AEG B.II; AEG Z 6/B.I repl.; x 6
- AEG Z 9 : 1 x 120 hp Mercedes D II 6-cyl.; span 14.50 m
- AEG Z 9 : Minimal improv. over Z 6/AEG B.I; repl. by Z 10
- AEG KZ 9: Kampf Zweidecker; improved AEG Z 9/B.II
- AEG KZ 9: aka Idflieg AEG C I (armed biplane scout a/c)
- AEG KZ 9: 1 x 150 hp Benz Bz III 6-cyl.;*** span 13.07 m
-- ** Alternative engine was 150 hp Mercedes D III 6-cylinder
- AEG Z 10: 1915 short-winged AEG Z 9/B.II derivative
- AEG Z 10: aka Idflieg AEG B.III; AEG Z 6/B.I repl.; x 3
- AEG Z 10: 1 x 120 hp Mercedes D II 6-cyl.; span 13.10 m
- AEG Z 10: Actually performed poorer than original AEG B.II
AEG E 1 - (??) 1912/13 experimental monoplane; Körting engine,
- E 1: (??) no details; poss. AEG #2 re-engined with a Körting?
AEG E 2 - 1911 Eule shoulder-wing monoplane prototype; x 2
- AEG E 2 : AEG steel-tube constr. fuselage; very short but broad
- AEG E 2 : Wire-braced Wagner wing curved back; thick profile
- AEG E 2 : 1 x 70 hp Gnome 7-cyl. rotary engine; span 11.00 m
- AEG E 2 : aka AEG Wagner after designer or Wagner Eule
- AEG E 2 : 1st prototype; taxi tests only; burned during repairs
- AEG E 2 : 2nd prototype; made several brief test flights*
-- * Now preserved at Muzeum Lotnictwa Polskiego in Krakow
-- NB: Weirdly, Wiki.de lists the E 2 as a "Hubschrauber"
AEG F 1 - 1914 single-engined 2-seat recce* flying boat; x 1**
-- * Orig. design for cancelled 1914 Ostseeflug-Wettbewerb
- AEG F 1 : aka AEG Flugboot; parasol monoplane pusher
- AEG F 1 : 1 x 150 hp Benz Bz.III pusher; span 16.00 m
- AEG F 1 : Raised tailplane; outriggers on lower struts
- AEG F 1 : Side-by-side seating; first flew in July of 1914
-- ** Some sources claim a 2nd F 1 built for Ostseeflug
AEG GZ 1 - 1915 twin-engined biplane 'Luftkreuzers'; x 2
- AEG GZ 1: (I) Idflieg AEG K I (Kampfflugzeug); x 1
- AEG GZ 1: (I) 'Aerial cruiser' fighter-interceptor concept POC
- AEG GZ 1: (I) Armour protected nose w/ turret; metal constr.
- AEG GZ 1: (I) 3-bay biplane with strut-suspended engines
- AEG GZ 1: 2 x 100 hp Mercedes D I 6-cyl.; span 16.00 m
- AEG GZ 1: (II) Idflieg AEG G I (Großflugzeug); x 1
- AEG GZ 1: (II) 2nd prototype meant for combat evaluation
AEG GZ 2: 1915 series bomber devel. of AEG GZ 1; x 27 or 28
- AEG GZ 2: Idflieg AEG G II (Großflugzeug)
- AEG GZ 2: More powerful, slightly enlarged AEG GZ 1/G I
- AEG GZ 2: 2 x 150 hp Benz Bz.III 6-cylinders; span 16.20 m
- AEG GZ 2: Crew 2-4; armoured nose section; turret guns
- AEG GZ 2: Failed as Luftkreuzer; success as bomber
AEG GZ 3 - 1915 series bomber evol. of AEG GZ 2/G II; x 46
- AEG GZ 3: Idflieg AEG G III (Großflugzeug)
- AEG GZ 3: Orig. Luftkreuzer; completed as bombers
- AEG GZ 3: 2 x 220 hp Mercedes D.IV 8-cyl.; span 18.44 m
- AEG GZ 3: Enlarged, more-powerful deriv. of GZ 2/G II
- AEG GZ 3: After prototype, no GZ 2-style triple rudders
AEG GZ 4 - 1916 3-seat biplane bomber; GZ 3 devel.; x 320
- AEG GZ 4: Idflieg AEG G IV (Großflugzeug)
- AEG GZ 4: 2 x 260 hp Mercedes D.IVa 6-cyl.; span 18.40 m
-- NB: AEG GZ 4 variants listed under AEG G IV (below)
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AEG Aircraft Designs by Idflieg Designation
AEG B -- 1913; aka AEG Z 3 (qv, above)
- AEG B : Idflieg or just acknowledge of B typ?
AEG B.I - 1914; aka AEG Z 6 (qv, above)
- AEG B.I : Idflieg designation
AEG B.II - 1914; aka AEG Z 9 (qv, above)
- AEG B.II : Idflieg designation
AEG B.III - 1915; aka AEG Z 10 (qv, above)
- AEG B.III: Idflieg designation
AEG C I - 1915; aka AEG KZ 9 (qv, above)
- AEG C I: Idflieg designation
AEG C II - 1915 2-seat armed reconnaissance aircraft; x 37
- AEG C II : Reduced-scale development of AEG KZ 9/C I
- AEG C II : 1 x 150 hp Benz Bz III 6-cylinder; span 11.95 m
- AEG C IIe: Trial a/c for J.I armor, annular radiator, etC
- AEG C II : Internal AEG designation currently unknown
AEG C III - 1915 2-seat armed recce aircraft prototype; x 1*
- AEG C III: Refined C II w/ deep fuselage filling wing gap**
- AEG C III: 1 x 150 hp Benz Bz III 6-cyl.; span 11.85 m
- AEG C III: Ergo/aerodynamically improved but not enough
- AEG C III: Internal AEG designation currently unknown
-- * Some sources claim 2 x AEG C III prototypes were built
-- ** This layout was, perhaps, inspired by the Roland C II
AEG C IV - 1916 2-seat armed reconnaissance aircraft; ~400
- AEG C IV : Enlarged, more powerful evol. of C II design
- AEG C IV : 1 x 160 hp Mercedes D III 6-cyl.; span 13.45 m
- AEG C IV : 2-bay wings; deep fuselage of C III abandoned
- AEG C IV(Fok): AEG C IVs built under license by Fokker
- AEG C IVa : 1 x 180 hp Argus As III 6-cylinder inline; x 1
- AEG C IV.N: (Nacht) 1917 further enlarged night bomber
- AEG C IV.N: 1 x 160 hp Mercedes D III 6-cyl.; span 15.30 m
- AEG C IV.N: 3-bay wings; racks for up to 6 x 50 kg bombs
-- AEG C V; AEG C VIII.Dr; and AEG J.I are derived from C IV
- AEG C IV : Internal AEG designation currently unknown
AEG C V - 1916 2-seat armed recce aircraft prototype; x 1
- AEG C V : A re-engined, more powered AEG C IV deriv.
- AEG C V : 1 x 220 hp Mercedes D IV 8-cyl.; span 13.45 m
-- Mercedes D IV straight-8 suffered excessive vibration
AEG C V - 1916 2-seat armed recce aircraft prototype; x 1
- AEG C V : A re-engined, more powered AEG C IV deriv.
- AEG C V : 1 x 220 hp Mercedes D IV 8-cyl.; span 13.45 m
AEG C VI - (Project) 1916 2-seat armed recce biplane
- AEG C V : A re-engined, more powered AEG C IV deriv.
- AEG C V : 1 x 200 hp Benz engine; span (??) m
AEG C VII – 1917 C-typ 'leicht' 2-seat escort biplane; x 3
- AEG C VII : 1916 Idflieg invite for what became CL category
- AEG C VII : Reduced-scale AEG C IV evol'n to suit 'C leicht'
-- AEG C VII/1: 1 x 160 hp Mercedes D III 6-cylinder; span 13.45 m
-- AEG C VII/1: Straight, parallel-chord wings (akin to AEG C IV)
-- AEG C VII/2: 2nd prototype featuring heavily swept-back wings
-- AEG C VII/3: 3rd prototype; greater wing sweep; min. wing gap
- AEG C VII : Even with swept wings; observer's field of fire poor*
-- * Prod'n for Ostfront suggested but no production undertaken
AEG C VIII – 1917 2-seat recce a/c; improved C VII attempt; x 3*
- AEG C VIII: Attempt to improve C VII as a potential C IV repl.
-- AEG C VIII/1: 1st prototype; aerodynamically improved C VII
-- AEG C VIII/1: 1 x 160 hp Mercedes D III 6-cyl.; span 13.45 m
-- AEG C VIII/2: 2nd prototype; aerodynamically improved C VII
-- AEG C VIII.Dr: 3rd prototype; revised w/ triplane wing panels
-- AEG C VIII.Dr: 1 x 160 hp Mercedes D III 6-cyl.; span 9.50 m
-- AEG C VIII.Dr: 'Dr' for Dreidecker or Three wings
-- * Some sources claim that C VIII.Dr was rebuilt from C VIII/2
-- AEG Dreidecker: (Project) Nov 1917 small, light triplane
-- AEG Dreidecker: Rejected due to poor perf. of C VIII.Dr
AEG D I - 1917 single-seat biplane fighter prototypes; x 3*
- AEG D I : Single-bay wings braced with single steel struts
- AEG D I : 1 x 160 hp Mercedes D IIIa 6-cyl.; span 8.50 m
- AEG D I/1 : 4400/17; short fuselage; steel-tube; wood ribs
- AEG D I/2 : 4401/17; steel for ribs; lengthened fuselage
- AEG D I/3 : 4402/17; as D I/2; model for 5000/17 series
-- * July 1917, 20 x pre-production AEG D Is were ordered
-- * After both prototypes crashed, 5000/17 order cancelled
AEG D II - 1917; alternative desig. for AEG D I/2 (above)
AEG D III - 1917; alternative desig. for AEG D I/3 (above)
AEG Dr I - 1917 single-seat triplane fighter prototype; x 1
- AEG Dr I : Triplane devel. of AEG D I using same fuselage
- AEG Dr I : 1 x 160 hp Mercedes D IIIa 6-cyl.; span 9.40 m
-- Capture of Sopwith Triplane inspired many DE designs
- AEG Dr I : Due to reduced performance, no order given
-- NB: AEG Dr I cellule rebuilt to eval. DJ I wing design
AEG DJ I - 1918 armoured biplane ground attack a/c; x 2
- AEG DJ I : Single-seater adapted from rejected AEG PE
- AEG DJ I/1: 1 x 195 hp Benz Bz.IIIb V8; span 10.00 m
- AEG DJ I/2: 1 x 245 hp Maybach Mb.IVa; span 10.00 m
- AEG DJ I : Essentially, biplane derivative of triplane PE
- AEG DJ I/3: Under constr. Sept 1918; prob. not finished
AEG G I - 1915; aka AEG GZ 1 (II) (qv, above)
- AEG G I : Idflieg designation (2nd GZ 1 only)
AEG G II - 1915; aka AEG GZ 2 (qv, above)
- AEG G II : Idflieg designation
AEG G III - 1915; aka AEG GZ 3 (qv, above)
- AEG G III : Idflieg designation
AEG G IV - 1916; aka AEG GZ 4 (qv, above)
- AEG G IV : Idflieg designation
- AEG G IV : Base model; 2-bay wings; built with G IVb-Lang
- AEG G IV : 2 x 260 hp Mercedes D.IVa 6-cyl.; span 18.40 m
- AEG G IVb: aka AEG G IVb-Lang; longer span 3-bay vers.
- AEG G IVb: 2 x 260 hp Mercedes D.IVa 6-cyl.; span 24.00 m
- AEG G IVb: Also had a lengthened fuselage & biplane tails
-- NB: Wiki-based sources list 'G.IVg' [sic] for G IVb-Lang
- AEG G IVk: (Kanone); armed with 2 x 20 mm Beckers
- AEG G IVk: Trials only; no producion; no operational use
AEG G V - 1918; enlarged & improved devel. of G IV; x ~37
- AEG G V : Idflieg designation; no 'GZ' number known
- AEG G V : G.IVb-Lang-based bomber; 1,000 kg bomb-load
- AEG G V : 2 x 260 hp Mercedes D.IVa 6-cyl.; span 27.24 m
- AEG G V : Further-extended 3-bay wings of G.IVb-Lang
AEG J 1 - 1917 armoured ground attack/recce biplane; x 306
- AEG J I : Revised AEG C IV airframe for ground support role
- AEG J I : 1 x 200 hp Benz Bz IV 6-cyl.; span (upper) 13.47 m
- AEG J I : Steel-armoured forward fuselage; 2-bayed wings
- AEG J I : 2 x downward-firing mgs + observer's gun-ring mg
-- All AEG J Is were fitted with wireless operated by observer
-- NB: Most J Is lacked over-hanging horn-balanced ailerons
- AEG J Ia: Devel. a/c; deeper-chord wings; doubled wires*
-- * Improved aileron linkage; double wires less vulnerable
-- * Changes intro'd to J I line; standard on AEG J II series
AEG J II - 1918 armoured ground attack/recce biplane; x 309
- AEG J II : Slightly-enlarged devel. of AEG J I (and AEG J Ia)
- AEG J II : 1 x 230 hp Benz Bz IV 6-cylinder; span 13.41 m*
-- * Wings shortened; span w/ new horn-balanced ailerons
-- * NB: Early-prod'n J IIs lacked those overhanging ailerons
-- * Some early J IIs also had J I-style triangular rudders
- AEG J II : Armament as per J.I except 20 w/ 20mm Becker
-- AEG J IIs had both wireless & observer-operated cameras
- AEG J II : Postwar DLR examples stripped of armour plate
-- 1919 DLR J.II civilian registrations = D-61; D-66; D-151
- AEG J.II K: (Kabine) Limousine conv.; DE reg D-9; DLR 36
AEG J III - 1918 armoured ground attack/recce biplane; x 3
- AEG J III: AEG J II devel. with increased range and MTOW
- AEG J III: Prove unsuccessful, devel. stopped at test a/c
AEG K I - 1915; aka AEG GZ 1 (I) (qv, above)
- AEG K I : Idflieg designation (1st GZ 1 only)
AEG N I - 1917 single-engined biplane night-bomber; x 37
- AEG N I : (Nacht) 3-bay equal-span biplane; aka C IV.N
- AEG N I : 1 x 150 hp Benz Bz.III 6-cyl.; span 15.30 m
- AEG N I : Long-span C IV deriv.; short-range bomber
- AEG N I : Postwar civil use; some with a Benz Bz.IV
AEG PE - 1917 armoured triplane ground attack a/c; x 2
- AEG PE : Panzer Einsitzer (Armoured Single-seater)
- AEG PE : 1 x 195 hp Benz Bz.IIIb V8; span 11.20 m
- AEG PE : Fwd fuselage armoured; aluminum rear fuselage
- AEG PE : Idflieg rejected for poor flight characteristics
-- NB: AEG reused PE fuselage designed for its AEG DJ I
AEG K I - 1915; aka AEG GZ 1 (qv, above)
- AEG K I : Idflieg designation
AEG R I - 1916 buried-engine biplane heavy bomber; x 2*
- AEG R I: Fuselage-mounted engine; shaft-driven props
- AEG R I: 4 x 260 hp Mercedes D IVa 6-cyl.; span 36.00 m
- AEG R I: Idflieg favoured AEG constr. for buried engines
-- * 21/16 crashed 03 Sept 1916; 22/16 was not finished
-- Component contruction begun on 6 x R I (R.59 to R.64)
-- (Project) Flying boat R I deriv. ordered; Marine Nr 9301
-- 4 x 245 hp Maybach Mb.IVa inline 6-cyl.; span 36.00 m
-- Flying boat R I deriv. cancelled by Marine Nov 1918
-- (Project) Floatplane R I ordered; Marine Nr 9302-'03
-- Floatplane 9302 nearly compl. by Zeppelinwerk Staaken
-- Floatplane 9303 components begun; cancelled Dec 1918
AEG R II - (Project) 1917 buried-engine monoplane bomber
- AEG R II: Very thick-section wings; shaft-driven propellers*
- AEG R II: 8 x 260 hp Mercedes D.IVa 6-cyl.; span 45.90 m
-- * 5.20 m 2-bladed tractor props; 4.80 m 4-bladed pushers
- AEG R II: Design work only by AEG; more by contractors**
-- ** DMG received Idflieg contract for complete drivetrain
-- ** Dornier-Lindau provided AEG w/ sample metal spars
For completeness, some undesignated R projects follow:
AEG R Monoplane - (Project) No AEG or Idflieg desig. known
- R Monoplane: Sept 1917 proposal 4-engined heavy bomber
- R Monoplane: 10 x crew; 6 x MGs; shaft-driven propellers*
- R Monoplane: 4 x 500 hp Mercedes D.IVas; span 45.90 m
- R Monoplane: Poss. leads to (or is related to) R II project
AEG R Triplane - (Project) No AEG or Idflieg desig. known
- R Triplane : Poss. of similar layout to 'Triple-Props' (below)
- R Triplane : 4 x 500 hp Mercedes Igel engines; span 35.00 m
- R Triplane : Few details; project seems to be quickly eclipsed
AEG R Triple-Props - (Project) No AEG or Idflieg desig. known
- R Triple-Props: Large, Caproni-inspired buried-engine bomber
- R Triple-Props: A total of 5 x engines* driving 3 large props
-- * 4 x 245 hp Maybach Mb.IVa + 1 x 500 hp Benz Bz.VI; or
-- * 4 x 245 hp Maybach Mb.IVa + 1 x 500 hp Maybach Mb.VI
- R Triple-Props: Sept 1918 official reports say project on hold
Aviatik-AEG R - (Project) No AEG or Idflieg desig. known
- Aviatik-AEG R: Very large buried-engine triplane bomber
- Aviatik-AEG R: (I) 8 x 250 hp Mercedes D.IV; span 55.00 m
- Aviatik-AEG R: (II) 4 x 530 hp Benz Bz.VI;* span 55.00 m
-- * Supercharged by a separate 120 hp Mercedes D II 6-cyl.
- Aviatik-AEG R: Shaft-drives to paired push-pull propellers
- Aviatik-AEG R: Chief designer was Aviatik's Ludwig Maurer
AEG S.I - 1914; aka AEG Z 5 floatplane (qv, above)
- AEG S.I: Idflieg desig.; type refused by Marine
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- Allgemeine Elektricitäts-Gesellschaft, Flugzeugfabrik, Berlin-Hennigsdorf
Since this is the Designation Section, I will avoid listing projects - like the Aviatik-AEG triplane bomber - which remained unrealised and unnamed. However, I will list projects given names or descriptions for which there is no known internal AEG designation.
AEG Aircraft Designs with Names Only
AEG Igel - (Project) 1916 buried-engine reconnaissance aircraft*
- AEG Igel: Named for Mercedes Igel engine in Idflieg spec
- AEG Igel: 1 x 500 hp Mercedes Igel engine; span (??) m
- AEG Igel: Buried engine to shaft-drive 2 x outrigger propellers
-- * Idflieg preferred triplane but comparison cellules to be built
-- AEG chosen for steel constr.; then Idflieg decided too difficult
AEG Muskelkraft - 1919 man-powered ultralight aircraft; x 1
- AEG Muskelkraft: Parasol wing; pedal-powered tractor-prop
-- Muskelkraft (muscle strength) understood as man-powered
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/aeg-projects.19405/#post-187676
AEG-Hubschrauber - 1935 tethered rotary-wing observ./relay platform
-- Hubschrauber is more description than a name; R. Schmidt design
- AEG-Hubschrauber: Coaxial rotor blades powered by electric motor
- AEG-Hubschrauber: 50 hp 3-phase electric motor; rotor diam. 7.20 m
- AEG-Hubschrauber: 50 hp electric motor; upper rotor diam. 7.20 m
- AEG-Hubschrauber: 3 x tethers doubled as electrical power cords
- AEG-Hubschrauber: (I) 1st vers.; mobile longwave antenna carrier*
-- * Meant to maintain radio communication with submerged Uboats
- AEG-Hubschrauber: (II) 1940 revived project; rebuilt (I) prototype
- AEG-Hubschrauber: (II) 100 hp electric motor;** rotor diam. 7.62 m
-- ** 100 hp at 310 rotor rpm; then later to 200 hp at 450 rotor rpm
- AEG-Hubschrauber: (II) Abandoned due to its lack of lifting power
- AEG-Hubschrauber: (Project) Free-flying type with AEG gas turbine
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AEG Aircraft Designations - # & Werksbezeichnung
AEG #1 - 1910 mixed wood/steel-tube constr.* biplane; x 1
- AEG #1 : Oberingenieur Paul Stumpf design; conf. w/ Z 1
- AEG #1 : 4-bay biplane; chain-driven prop above engine
- AEG #1 : 1 x 70/75 hp Korting 8SL116 V8; span 17.50 m
- AEG #1 : Equal-span wings; open-framework fuselage
- AEG #1 : Online confusion between AEG #1 & AEG Z 1
-- * Based on exposure to all-wood framed Wright Flyer
AEG #2 - 1911 streamlined tandem-seat tractor biplane; x 1
- AEG #2 : Enclosed fuselage; 2.5-bay; overhanging uppers
- AEG #2 : 1 x 95 hp NAG Type F3 4-cyl.; span (??) m
- AEG #2 : Wings folded very compactly against fuselage
AEG Z 1 - 1913 streamlined 2-seat tractor biplane series*
-- * Oberingenieur Paul Stumpf design; series ran to Z 10
- AEG Z 1 : Zweidecker (2-winged) evol. from AEG #2
- AEG Z 1 : 1 x 70/75 hp Körting V8 (actually gave 65 hp)
- AEG Z 1 : Swept tip 2.5-bay wings; wing warping control
- AEG Z 2 : 1911 tandem 2-seat tractor biplane trainer; x ?
- AEG Z 2 : 1 x 95 hp NAG inline 4-cylinder; span 15.50 m
- AEG Z 2 : Similar to Z 1; reshaped fuselage & tailplane
- AEG Z 3 : Series; aka AEG B; upper wing ailerons;** x 2
- AEG Z 3 : 1 x 95 hp NAG (model?) 6-cyl.; span 15.50 m
- AEG Z 3 : Retained AEG #2/Z 1 wing-folding capability
-- ** Despite change to ailerons, swept-back tips retained
- AEG Z 4 : 191? tandem 2-seat tractor biplane trainer; x ?
- AEG Z 4 : 1 x (??) hp Mercedes (Daimler); span 14.50 m
- AEG Z 4 : Refined AEG Z 3 airframe; led to AEG Z 6/B I
- AEG Z 5 : 1914 Marineflieger floatplane;* Idflieg AEG S.I
-- * Orig. designed for cancelled 1914 Ostseeflug-Wettbewerb
- AEG Z 5 : Reinforce, higher-powered Z 3 w/ cruciform tail
- AEG Z 5 : 1 x 150 hp Benz Bz.III 6-cylinder; span 15.50 m
- AEG Z 5 : Overweight, poor climb rate; refused by Marine
- AEG Z 6 : 1914 refined AEG Z 3 trainer/unarmed recce a/c
- AEG Z 6 : aka Idflieg AEG B I; AEG Z 3/B repl.; x 6
- AEG Z 6 : 1 x 100 hp Benz FX/Bz II 6-cyl.; span 14.50 m
- AEG Z 6a: 1 x 100 hp Benz Bz III 6-cylinder; span 14.50 m
-- NB: Fliegertruppen + privately-owned AEG flying school
- AEG Z 7 : (??) hypothetical designation
- AEG Z 8 : (??) hypothetical designation
- AEG Z 9 : 1914 refined AEG Z 6 trainer/unarmed recce a/c
- AEG Z 9 : aka Idflieg AEG B.II; AEG Z 6/B.I repl.; x 6
- AEG Z 9 : 1 x 120 hp Mercedes D II 6-cyl.; span 14.50 m
- AEG Z 9 : Minimal improv. over Z 6/AEG B.I; repl. by Z 10
- AEG KZ 9: Kampf Zweidecker; improved AEG Z 9/B.II
- AEG KZ 9: aka Idflieg AEG C I (armed biplane scout a/c)
- AEG KZ 9: 1 x 150 hp Benz Bz III 6-cyl.;*** span 13.07 m
-- ** Alternative engine was 150 hp Mercedes D III 6-cylinder
- AEG Z 10: 1915 short-winged AEG Z 9/B.II derivative
- AEG Z 10: aka Idflieg AEG B.III; AEG Z 6/B.I repl.; x 3
- AEG Z 10: 1 x 120 hp Mercedes D II 6-cyl.; span 13.10 m
- AEG Z 10: Actually performed poorer than original AEG B.II
AEG E 1 - (??) 1912/13 experimental monoplane; Körting engine,
- E 1: (??) no details; poss. AEG #2 re-engined with a Körting?
AEG E 2 - 1911 Eule shoulder-wing monoplane prototype; x 2
- AEG E 2 : AEG steel-tube constr. fuselage; very short but broad
- AEG E 2 : Wire-braced Wagner wing curved back; thick profile
- AEG E 2 : 1 x 70 hp Gnome 7-cyl. rotary engine; span 11.00 m
- AEG E 2 : aka AEG Wagner after designer or Wagner Eule
- AEG E 2 : 1st prototype; taxi tests only; burned during repairs
- AEG E 2 : 2nd prototype; made several brief test flights*
-- * Now preserved at Muzeum Lotnictwa Polskiego in Krakow
-- NB: Weirdly, Wiki.de lists the E 2 as a "Hubschrauber"
AEG F 1 - 1914 single-engined 2-seat recce* flying boat; x 1**
-- * Orig. design for cancelled 1914 Ostseeflug-Wettbewerb
- AEG F 1 : aka AEG Flugboot; parasol monoplane pusher
- AEG F 1 : 1 x 150 hp Benz Bz.III pusher; span 16.00 m
- AEG F 1 : Raised tailplane; outriggers on lower struts
- AEG F 1 : Side-by-side seating; first flew in July of 1914
-- ** Some sources claim a 2nd F 1 built for Ostseeflug
AEG GZ 1 - 1915 twin-engined biplane 'Luftkreuzers'; x 2
- AEG GZ 1: (I) Idflieg AEG K I (Kampfflugzeug); x 1
- AEG GZ 1: (I) 'Aerial cruiser' fighter-interceptor concept POC
- AEG GZ 1: (I) Armour protected nose w/ turret; metal constr.
- AEG GZ 1: (I) 3-bay biplane with strut-suspended engines
- AEG GZ 1: 2 x 100 hp Mercedes D I 6-cyl.; span 16.00 m
- AEG GZ 1: (II) Idflieg AEG G I (Großflugzeug); x 1
- AEG GZ 1: (II) 2nd prototype meant for combat evaluation
AEG GZ 2: 1915 series bomber devel. of AEG GZ 1; x 27 or 28
- AEG GZ 2: Idflieg AEG G II (Großflugzeug)
- AEG GZ 2: More powerful, slightly enlarged AEG GZ 1/G I
- AEG GZ 2: 2 x 150 hp Benz Bz.III 6-cylinders; span 16.20 m
- AEG GZ 2: Crew 2-4; armoured nose section; turret guns
- AEG GZ 2: Failed as Luftkreuzer; success as bomber
AEG GZ 3 - 1915 series bomber evol. of AEG GZ 2/G II; x 46
- AEG GZ 3: Idflieg AEG G III (Großflugzeug)
- AEG GZ 3: Orig. Luftkreuzer; completed as bombers
- AEG GZ 3: 2 x 220 hp Mercedes D.IV 8-cyl.; span 18.44 m
- AEG GZ 3: Enlarged, more-powerful deriv. of GZ 2/G II
- AEG GZ 3: After prototype, no GZ 2-style triple rudders
AEG GZ 4 - 1916 3-seat biplane bomber; GZ 3 devel.; x 320
- AEG GZ 4: Idflieg AEG G IV (Großflugzeug)
- AEG GZ 4: 2 x 260 hp Mercedes D.IVa 6-cyl.; span 18.40 m
-- NB: AEG GZ 4 variants listed under AEG G IV (below)
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AEG Aircraft Designs by Idflieg Designation
AEG B -- 1913; aka AEG Z 3 (qv, above)
- AEG B : Idflieg or just acknowledge of B typ?
AEG B.I - 1914; aka AEG Z 6 (qv, above)
- AEG B.I : Idflieg designation
AEG B.II - 1914; aka AEG Z 9 (qv, above)
- AEG B.II : Idflieg designation
AEG B.III - 1915; aka AEG Z 10 (qv, above)
- AEG B.III: Idflieg designation
AEG C I - 1915; aka AEG KZ 9 (qv, above)
- AEG C I: Idflieg designation
AEG C II - 1915 2-seat armed reconnaissance aircraft; x 37
- AEG C II : Reduced-scale development of AEG KZ 9/C I
- AEG C II : 1 x 150 hp Benz Bz III 6-cylinder; span 11.95 m
- AEG C IIe: Trial a/c for J.I armor, annular radiator, etC
- AEG C II : Internal AEG designation currently unknown
AEG C III - 1915 2-seat armed recce aircraft prototype; x 1*
- AEG C III: Refined C II w/ deep fuselage filling wing gap**
- AEG C III: 1 x 150 hp Benz Bz III 6-cyl.; span 11.85 m
- AEG C III: Ergo/aerodynamically improved but not enough
- AEG C III: Internal AEG designation currently unknown
-- * Some sources claim 2 x AEG C III prototypes were built
-- ** This layout was, perhaps, inspired by the Roland C II
AEG C IV - 1916 2-seat armed reconnaissance aircraft; ~400
- AEG C IV : Enlarged, more powerful evol. of C II design
- AEG C IV : 1 x 160 hp Mercedes D III 6-cyl.; span 13.45 m
- AEG C IV : 2-bay wings; deep fuselage of C III abandoned
- AEG C IV(Fok): AEG C IVs built under license by Fokker
- AEG C IVa : 1 x 180 hp Argus As III 6-cylinder inline; x 1
- AEG C IV.N: (Nacht) 1917 further enlarged night bomber
- AEG C IV.N: 1 x 160 hp Mercedes D III 6-cyl.; span 15.30 m
- AEG C IV.N: 3-bay wings; racks for up to 6 x 50 kg bombs
-- AEG C V; AEG C VIII.Dr; and AEG J.I are derived from C IV
- AEG C IV : Internal AEG designation currently unknown
AEG C V - 1916 2-seat armed recce aircraft prototype; x 1
- AEG C V : A re-engined, more powered AEG C IV deriv.
- AEG C V : 1 x 220 hp Mercedes D IV 8-cyl.; span 13.45 m
-- Mercedes D IV straight-8 suffered excessive vibration
AEG C V - 1916 2-seat armed recce aircraft prototype; x 1
- AEG C V : A re-engined, more powered AEG C IV deriv.
- AEG C V : 1 x 220 hp Mercedes D IV 8-cyl.; span 13.45 m
AEG C VI - (Project) 1916 2-seat armed recce biplane
- AEG C V : A re-engined, more powered AEG C IV deriv.
- AEG C V : 1 x 200 hp Benz engine; span (??) m
AEG C VII – 1917 C-typ 'leicht' 2-seat escort biplane; x 3
- AEG C VII : 1916 Idflieg invite for what became CL category
- AEG C VII : Reduced-scale AEG C IV evol'n to suit 'C leicht'
-- AEG C VII/1: 1 x 160 hp Mercedes D III 6-cylinder; span 13.45 m
-- AEG C VII/1: Straight, parallel-chord wings (akin to AEG C IV)
-- AEG C VII/2: 2nd prototype featuring heavily swept-back wings
-- AEG C VII/3: 3rd prototype; greater wing sweep; min. wing gap
- AEG C VII : Even with swept wings; observer's field of fire poor*
-- * Prod'n for Ostfront suggested but no production undertaken
AEG C VIII – 1917 2-seat recce a/c; improved C VII attempt; x 3*
- AEG C VIII: Attempt to improve C VII as a potential C IV repl.
-- AEG C VIII/1: 1st prototype; aerodynamically improved C VII
-- AEG C VIII/1: 1 x 160 hp Mercedes D III 6-cyl.; span 13.45 m
-- AEG C VIII/2: 2nd prototype; aerodynamically improved C VII
-- AEG C VIII.Dr: 3rd prototype; revised w/ triplane wing panels
-- AEG C VIII.Dr: 1 x 160 hp Mercedes D III 6-cyl.; span 9.50 m
-- AEG C VIII.Dr: 'Dr' for Dreidecker or Three wings
-- * Some sources claim that C VIII.Dr was rebuilt from C VIII/2
-- AEG Dreidecker: (Project) Nov 1917 small, light triplane
-- AEG Dreidecker: Rejected due to poor perf. of C VIII.Dr
AEG D I - 1917 single-seat biplane fighter prototypes; x 3*
- AEG D I : Single-bay wings braced with single steel struts
- AEG D I : 1 x 160 hp Mercedes D IIIa 6-cyl.; span 8.50 m
- AEG D I/1 : 4400/17; short fuselage; steel-tube; wood ribs
- AEG D I/2 : 4401/17; steel for ribs; lengthened fuselage
- AEG D I/3 : 4402/17; as D I/2; model for 5000/17 series
-- * July 1917, 20 x pre-production AEG D Is were ordered
-- * After both prototypes crashed, 5000/17 order cancelled
AEG D II - 1917; alternative desig. for AEG D I/2 (above)
AEG D III - 1917; alternative desig. for AEG D I/3 (above)
AEG Dr I - 1917 single-seat triplane fighter prototype; x 1
- AEG Dr I : Triplane devel. of AEG D I using same fuselage
- AEG Dr I : 1 x 160 hp Mercedes D IIIa 6-cyl.; span 9.40 m
-- Capture of Sopwith Triplane inspired many DE designs
- AEG Dr I : Due to reduced performance, no order given
-- NB: AEG Dr I cellule rebuilt to eval. DJ I wing design
AEG DJ I - 1918 armoured biplane ground attack a/c; x 2
- AEG DJ I : Single-seater adapted from rejected AEG PE
- AEG DJ I/1: 1 x 195 hp Benz Bz.IIIb V8; span 10.00 m
- AEG DJ I/2: 1 x 245 hp Maybach Mb.IVa; span 10.00 m
- AEG DJ I : Essentially, biplane derivative of triplane PE
- AEG DJ I/3: Under constr. Sept 1918; prob. not finished
AEG G I - 1915; aka AEG GZ 1 (II) (qv, above)
- AEG G I : Idflieg designation (2nd GZ 1 only)
AEG G II - 1915; aka AEG GZ 2 (qv, above)
- AEG G II : Idflieg designation
AEG G III - 1915; aka AEG GZ 3 (qv, above)
- AEG G III : Idflieg designation
AEG G IV - 1916; aka AEG GZ 4 (qv, above)
- AEG G IV : Idflieg designation
- AEG G IV : Base model; 2-bay wings; built with G IVb-Lang
- AEG G IV : 2 x 260 hp Mercedes D.IVa 6-cyl.; span 18.40 m
- AEG G IVb: aka AEG G IVb-Lang; longer span 3-bay vers.
- AEG G IVb: 2 x 260 hp Mercedes D.IVa 6-cyl.; span 24.00 m
- AEG G IVb: Also had a lengthened fuselage & biplane tails
-- NB: Wiki-based sources list 'G.IVg' [sic] for G IVb-Lang
- AEG G IVk: (Kanone); armed with 2 x 20 mm Beckers
- AEG G IVk: Trials only; no producion; no operational use
AEG G V - 1918; enlarged & improved devel. of G IV; x ~37
- AEG G V : Idflieg designation; no 'GZ' number known
- AEG G V : G.IVb-Lang-based bomber; 1,000 kg bomb-load
- AEG G V : 2 x 260 hp Mercedes D.IVa 6-cyl.; span 27.24 m
- AEG G V : Further-extended 3-bay wings of G.IVb-Lang
AEG J 1 - 1917 armoured ground attack/recce biplane; x 306
- AEG J I : Revised AEG C IV airframe for ground support role
- AEG J I : 1 x 200 hp Benz Bz IV 6-cyl.; span (upper) 13.47 m
- AEG J I : Steel-armoured forward fuselage; 2-bayed wings
- AEG J I : 2 x downward-firing mgs + observer's gun-ring mg
-- All AEG J Is were fitted with wireless operated by observer
-- NB: Most J Is lacked over-hanging horn-balanced ailerons
- AEG J Ia: Devel. a/c; deeper-chord wings; doubled wires*
-- * Improved aileron linkage; double wires less vulnerable
-- * Changes intro'd to J I line; standard on AEG J II series
AEG J II - 1918 armoured ground attack/recce biplane; x 309
- AEG J II : Slightly-enlarged devel. of AEG J I (and AEG J Ia)
- AEG J II : 1 x 230 hp Benz Bz IV 6-cylinder; span 13.41 m*
-- * Wings shortened; span w/ new horn-balanced ailerons
-- * NB: Early-prod'n J IIs lacked those overhanging ailerons
-- * Some early J IIs also had J I-style triangular rudders
- AEG J II : Armament as per J.I except 20 w/ 20mm Becker
-- AEG J IIs had both wireless & observer-operated cameras
- AEG J II : Postwar DLR examples stripped of armour plate
-- 1919 DLR J.II civilian registrations = D-61; D-66; D-151
- AEG J.II K: (Kabine) Limousine conv.; DE reg D-9; DLR 36
AEG J III - 1918 armoured ground attack/recce biplane; x 3
- AEG J III: AEG J II devel. with increased range and MTOW
- AEG J III: Prove unsuccessful, devel. stopped at test a/c
AEG K I - 1915; aka AEG GZ 1 (I) (qv, above)
- AEG K I : Idflieg designation (1st GZ 1 only)
AEG N I - 1917 single-engined biplane night-bomber; x 37
- AEG N I : (Nacht) 3-bay equal-span biplane; aka C IV.N
- AEG N I : 1 x 150 hp Benz Bz.III 6-cyl.; span 15.30 m
- AEG N I : Long-span C IV deriv.; short-range bomber
- AEG N I : Postwar civil use; some with a Benz Bz.IV
AEG PE - 1917 armoured triplane ground attack a/c; x 2
- AEG PE : Panzer Einsitzer (Armoured Single-seater)
- AEG PE : 1 x 195 hp Benz Bz.IIIb V8; span 11.20 m
- AEG PE : Fwd fuselage armoured; aluminum rear fuselage
- AEG PE : Idflieg rejected for poor flight characteristics
-- NB: AEG reused PE fuselage designed for its AEG DJ I
AEG K I - 1915; aka AEG GZ 1 (qv, above)
- AEG K I : Idflieg designation
AEG R I - 1916 buried-engine biplane heavy bomber; x 2*
- AEG R I: Fuselage-mounted engine; shaft-driven props
- AEG R I: 4 x 260 hp Mercedes D IVa 6-cyl.; span 36.00 m
- AEG R I: Idflieg favoured AEG constr. for buried engines
-- * 21/16 crashed 03 Sept 1916; 22/16 was not finished
-- Component contruction begun on 6 x R I (R.59 to R.64)
-- (Project) Flying boat R I deriv. ordered; Marine Nr 9301
-- 4 x 245 hp Maybach Mb.IVa inline 6-cyl.; span 36.00 m
-- Flying boat R I deriv. cancelled by Marine Nov 1918
-- (Project) Floatplane R I ordered; Marine Nr 9302-'03
-- Floatplane 9302 nearly compl. by Zeppelinwerk Staaken
-- Floatplane 9303 components begun; cancelled Dec 1918
AEG R II - (Project) 1917 buried-engine monoplane bomber
- AEG R II: Very thick-section wings; shaft-driven propellers*
- AEG R II: 8 x 260 hp Mercedes D.IVa 6-cyl.; span 45.90 m
-- * 5.20 m 2-bladed tractor props; 4.80 m 4-bladed pushers
- AEG R II: Design work only by AEG; more by contractors**
-- ** DMG received Idflieg contract for complete drivetrain
-- ** Dornier-Lindau provided AEG w/ sample metal spars
For completeness, some undesignated R projects follow:
AEG R Monoplane - (Project) No AEG or Idflieg desig. known
- R Monoplane: Sept 1917 proposal 4-engined heavy bomber
- R Monoplane: 10 x crew; 6 x MGs; shaft-driven propellers*
- R Monoplane: 4 x 500 hp Mercedes D.IVas; span 45.90 m
- R Monoplane: Poss. leads to (or is related to) R II project
AEG R Triplane - (Project) No AEG or Idflieg desig. known
- R Triplane : Poss. of similar layout to 'Triple-Props' (below)
- R Triplane : 4 x 500 hp Mercedes Igel engines; span 35.00 m
- R Triplane : Few details; project seems to be quickly eclipsed
AEG R Triple-Props - (Project) No AEG or Idflieg desig. known
- R Triple-Props: Large, Caproni-inspired buried-engine bomber
- R Triple-Props: A total of 5 x engines* driving 3 large props
-- * 4 x 245 hp Maybach Mb.IVa + 1 x 500 hp Benz Bz.VI; or
-- * 4 x 245 hp Maybach Mb.IVa + 1 x 500 hp Maybach Mb.VI
- R Triple-Props: Sept 1918 official reports say project on hold
Aviatik-AEG R - (Project) No AEG or Idflieg desig. known
- Aviatik-AEG R: Very large buried-engine triplane bomber
- Aviatik-AEG R: (I) 8 x 250 hp Mercedes D.IV; span 55.00 m
- Aviatik-AEG R: (II) 4 x 530 hp Benz Bz.VI;* span 55.00 m
-- * Supercharged by a separate 120 hp Mercedes D II 6-cyl.
- Aviatik-AEG R: Shaft-drives to paired push-pull propellers
- Aviatik-AEG R: Chief designer was Aviatik's Ludwig Maurer
AEG S.I - 1914; aka AEG Z 5 floatplane (qv, above)
- AEG S.I: Idflieg desig.; type refused by Marine
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