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  1. J

    HEAT (shaped charge) naval ordnance in WWII

    The French Edgar Brandt company had a design in 1940 for an eight inch shell, intended for naval guns, with HEAT functionality. My understanding is that it was projected to have, under optimal conditions, penetration of ~ 500mm / 20 inches. Brandt also was interested in the use of HEAT...
  2. T

    Strasbourg - light aircraft carrier project?

    After reviewing various resources, I found information, about battleship Strasbourg, after the end of the war, was proposed to be rebuilt as a light aircraft carrier. But there is very little information and this is at the level of "mentions". Now I wondered if there was such a project or did it...
  3. A

    Harrier in place of Super Etendard: 1973

    This is a rough TL sketch. POD is October 20, 1971. http://www.ffaa.net/projects/jaguar/jaguar_fr.htm That day, off Marseille, the Foch is flight testing Jaguar M05, that is: the navalized fifth prototype. As the aircraft is returned to the hangar for maintenance, one mechanic raise alarm...
  4. Z

    Supersonic Etendards instead of Crusaders?

    What happens if Dassault gets his hands on a jet engine that fits the Etendard and allows it to become a properly supersonic fighter? Could this tip the balance and see them ordered instead of F8 Crusaders?
  5. S

    French pre-WW II Heavy AA Gun Plans

    As we all may know, the French were developing land-based heavy AA guns in the 1920s and 30s to counter the next-generation bombers of that time. They designed and tinkered a lot with 75 mm guns, then decided to up-gun it to 90 mm caliber. The 90 mm gun, or known as the Canon de 90 mm Modèle...
  6. uk 75

    A NATO frigate

    Wiki has quite a good summary of the abortive attempt in the 1980s to design a common escort ship for NATO navies https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFR-90 The thread about the Kidds for the RN reminded me of this programme. It ought to have been possible to design a ship flexible enough to...
  7. uk 75

    France's pivotal defence role

    While the size and importance of France's armed forces in 1914 and 1939 is well understood, their importance since 1945 does not seem to be appreciated. Until the creation of West Germany's Bundeswehr at the end of the 1950s it was France that bore the brunt of providing the largest West...
  8. M

    France's Naval Group is developing a new XLUUV (Extra Large Unmanned Undersea Vehicle)

    Prototype is already in the water, it's been worked on since 2018ish. ~10 meters (33 ft), up to 20 meters (66 ft) with additional power options. Displacement: ~10 tons Service version will have a weapons/equipment bay. Our own Covert shores did a nice comparison image of different...
  9. Tzoli

    The Decisive Battle at Antivari

    I've already asked this on the battlecruisers forum but I ask here as well: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/alltheworldsbattlecruisers/the-decisive-battle-at-antivari-t9042.html#p23148 Historically the Battle of Antivari was a minor battle at the start of WW1 and the first one of the...
  10. Grey Havoc

    FS Perle

    https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/uss-bonhomme-richard.30940/post-402978 Some good news: https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/04/naval-group-started-transplanting-a-damaged-ssn-with-a-decomissioned-submarine/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_submarine_Perle_(S606)
  11. Grey Havoc

    NAe. Sao Paulo (ex-FS Foch)

    https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2021/04/09/brazilian-group-seeks-to-stop-aircraft-carrier-sale-to-turkish-company/
  12. uk 75

    Georges Leygues ASW ships

    The French Navy mirrored the RN Type 22 with its own ASW escort programme https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Leygues-class_frigate Comparisons are interesting and there were even 2 AD derivatives. The French built three large ASW destroyers in the 70s...
  13. Tzoli

    French Pre WW1 Battleship proposals

    I've found this article in the Warship International, Vol. 22, No. 2 (1985) about Some French Fast Battleships—That Might Have Been: These are some interesting proposals from the Naval College graduates. The two battlecruiser designs mentioned at the end were Georges Edmond Just Durand-Viel...
  14. uk 75

    Making more of the Daring class

    I have always been struck by the fact that France made much better use of the Surcouf class, their equivalents of the RN Daring class http://www.seaforces.org/marint/French-Navy/Destroyer-Frigate/Surcouf-class.htm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daring-class_destroyer_(1949) 4 Tartar or Ikara...
  15. F

    French Aircraft Carrier Never-Were Designs and Proposals

    Hello there! I've been trying to find data on French aircraft carrier designs between the Joffre and the Clemenceau (PA-54). I've found plenty of data on the PA-28, but I'm very interested in the supposed PA-25 design from Vichy France and the PA-27, PA-29, PA-31 designs from 1945 onwards...
  16. Grey Havoc

    Naviris

    https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2020/06/04/french-italian-naval-joint-venture-invests-in-future-technologies/
  17. V

    What if there had been a Falklands type conflict at another pivotal point in history?

    There are a number of discussions across various topics that got me thinking of the changes to the post Nott Review RN because of the lessons learned due to the Falklands War and what would have happened had that, or a similar conflict, occurred at various points in history, post WWII. The same...
  18. Grey Havoc

    Norwegian Campaign (naval element)

    Meant to add 'Operation Wilfred' as a tag as well but ran into the limit.
  19. F

    Jean Bart Unbuilt Projects

    I've read in a few places that there were a couple of proposals (one from the US and another by the French after the war's end) to turn the unfinished French battleship Jean Bart into an aircraft carrier (which were obviously refused). Tzoli seems to have made a mockup of how it might've looked...
  20. Dilandu

    BHT-38 French guided bomb

    Hello! I'm currently searching the data about this little guy: This is BHT-38 (Bombe Hurel-Turck) radio-controlled glide bomb, designed for French military shortly before World War 2. It was supposed to have a weight about 160 kg. Some examples were tested in 1940, but Fall of the France...
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