Consolidated-Vultee and Convair model numbers

Concerning ID numbers. How about this one.
AERO DOC SST-001. Also found a few folders that I will share images of 3 views.Here’s one BETTA No IA SD-49-9007 and ZD-004. I have some more. I need to find them.
 

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Was there such a thing as a jet conversion proposal based upon the B-24 ? I recall reading of same but unsure where

cheers, Joe
 
Was there such a thing as a jet conversion proposal based upon the B-24 ? I recall reading of same but unsure where

cheers, Joe
That, if existed, would be interesting. But it seems not probable.

My thoughts:

LB-25 was an advanced B-24 study from May 1940. 4 x Wright R-3350 (Pg 145)
A 4 x TG100 Turboprop powered B-32 version studied in October 1944 (Pg148). The TG-100 failed to deliver the expected 2300 hp, reaching only 1700 hp.
Thus, to me, seems more probable an hypothetical turboprop B-24 study than a jet powered one.

The then available engine was the J31, at 7,3 KN Thrust lacked the power required. The following J35-GE-2, for comparison, offered 17 KN

The USAAF asked for a jet replacement in that class in early 1944.
Feasibility studies for a jet powered bomber, however, can be traced back to Sept 1943 (Development Engineering Branch in Washington, DC asked AMC Engineering Division at Wright Field about the utilisation of TG-180 engines) and Boeing engineers considered that a medium jet bomber was possible. In January 1944 they proposed the Model 413 to the 1943 reconnaissance competition. In May 1944 Boeing was already producing medium jet bomber designs.
The "medium jet bomber" requirement asked for a 80,000 to 90,000 GW with GE TG-180 (J35) engines. The B-24J MTOW was 65,000 lb.
Convair submitted their fresh Model 109 (XB-46) proposal in November 1944. Again there's no "place" for an hypothetical jet powered B-24 study to have ever been considered.


Sources:
"Convair Advanced Designs" by Robert E Bradley
"Boeing B-47" by C Mike Habermehl & Robert S Hopkins III
"B-47 & B-52 Origins and Evolution" by Scott Lowther
 
A rather strange designation, the "Model 4502" of May 1945 for a single seat turboprop fighter. From Tony Butlers American Experimental Fighters of WW2
 
A rather strange designation, the "Model 4502" of May 1945 for a single seat turboprop fighter. From Tony Butlers American Experimental Fighters of WW2
I Don't think it's the Model 4502. The Vultee proposal number was VF 4502. If I were to expand this out, I would guess:
Vultee
Fighter Field [Proposal] -
[19]45
02
[second proposal of the year in this series]

For lack of any other "handle" or "name " I suppose that you could call it the Model 4502 but that would be, strictly speaking, derived from the proposal number and not the official list of allocated Vultee Model Numbers. Other known "45" Vultee proposals are VF 4511 for the 1945 AAF Penetration Fighter and VF 4512 and VF 4516 for the 1945 AAF Interceptor Fighter.

Remember that Vultee has bought Consolidated, but heritage Vultee (Downey) is being operated as Vultee Field Division and has not yet integrated numbering systems with heritage Consolidated (San Diego). (Vultee reports are "DEVF" and Consolidated/Convair San Diego are in the "F" range ("FZP", and so on). "Z" range (such as "ZP" and so on ) and Convair Fort Worth have an "F" prefix (such as "FZP" and so on).

That's my SWAG and I'm sticking to it. (Until I get better evidence! :cool: )

(revised and extended 12 Nov 2025)
 
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