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Early projects of Su-24 Fencer
« on: September 12, 2006, 09:39:47 pm »
I believe we all know T-6-1, which is a delta wing aircraft just very similar to Cy-24. But I also believe there are some layouts before T-6-1, that never built.
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Re: Pre-layout of Fencer
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2006, 10:10:34 pm »
Indeed. This is an early Su-24 mockup - there were alternative designs with engine intakes sloping up and down.
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Re: Early projects of Su-24 Fencer
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2006, 11:04:34 pm »
Those are two different designs conceived under the S-6 program.  It predated the T-6.

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Re: Early projects of Su-24 Fencer
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2006, 02:43:14 am »
Helo! concerning the T6-1 (the fixed wing with lift jets) does anyone has a 3-view of this thing ?
I want to make a Su-24 with this wing, but without the lift jets... a kind of TSR-2 ski :p

The T-6-1 had fixed wings and lift jets.
I heard somewhere that the T-6-2 started with the same wing as the -1 (delta) but get ride off the lift jets.
Then, the plane become T-6-2IG when VG was adopted...
this was build as the Su-24.

Is this true ?

I'm very confused and need to know more about the projects between the
T-6-1 and actual Su-24.

Thanks in advance!  ;)


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Re: Early projects of Su-24 Fencer
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2006, 03:25:05 am »
« Last Edit: September 26, 2012, 10:40:17 am by Matej »

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Re: Early projects of Su-24 Fencer
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2006, 05:59:20 am »
Brilliant, and thank you very much guys!!!  :-*
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Re: Early projects of Su-24 Fencer
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2012, 08:20:44 am »
Sukhoi T-6 prototype flew.

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Re: Early projects of Su-24 Fencer
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2015, 05:45:39 am »
Hi,


here is a two projects for Sukhoi Su-24,the Su-24BM and su-24m2,as I heard the
later have been built.


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Re: Early projects of Su-24 Fencer
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2017, 05:00:21 am »
In my files a surprise,

there was a Project for Su-24 with additional air intake mounted over the fuselage,
and of course behind the cockpit,does anyone know it or has a drawing to it ?.

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Re: Early projects of Su-24 Fencer
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2017, 07:49:47 pm »
In my files a surprise,

there was a Project for Su-24 with additional air intake mounted over the fuselage,
and of course behind the cockpit,does anyone know it or has a drawing to it ?.

I've never heard about it. Something like the 3-engined Vigilante interceptor proposed by NAR?

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Re: Early projects of Su-24 Fencer
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2017, 05:02:07 am »
In my files a surprise,

there was a Project for Su-24 with additional air intake mounted over the fuselage,
and of course behind the cockpit,does anyone know it or has a drawing to it ?.

I've never heard about it. Something like the 3-engined Vigilante interceptor proposed by NAR?

Yes my dear Starviking,

and I am sure about it,but there was also a Project for Su-24,looks like to be carrying an
AWACS radar on it,but need to confirm on this later one.

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Re: Early projects of Su-24 Fencer
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2017, 07:11:58 am »
In my files a surprise,

there was a Project for Su-24 with additional air intake mounted over the fuselage,
and of course behind the cockpit,does anyone know it or has a drawing to it ?.

By the way,it had only two engines and not three,the additional air intake was
for increased thrust and propulsion.

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Re: Early projects of Su-24 Fencer
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2017, 04:52:58 am »
there was a Project for Su-24 with additional air intake mounted over the fuselage,
and of course behind the cockpit,does anyone know it or has a drawing to it ?.
It never existed. Su-24BM2 that was transition from Su-24BM to T-60S, had TWO intakes on top of the fuselage though.
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Re: Early projects of Su-24 Fencer
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2017, 07:32:25 am »
It never existed.

My dear Flateric,

that's not right,I am sure from source and description,

http://airwar.ru/enc/bomber/su24m.html

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The Su-24MM project ("minor modification") assumed the installation of the latest REO and associated high-precision weapons, as well as more powerful (and simultaneously more economical and less "noticeable" in the infrared range) two-loop AL-31F engines from the Su-27 , which were then still in abundance.

But the AL-31F was characterized by a much higher air flow through the compressor, and for them it was necessary to make a third air intake over the fuselage, which looked rather unusual. For this, Su-24MM in the company received the nickname "stillborn monster", which turned out to be prophetic - and soon this program was discontinued. This time in favor of percussion modifications of one of the most successful OKB aircraft - the Su-27. By the way, at the turn of the eighties, the Americans tried to radically upgrade their F-111s. Taking advantage of the delay in launching the heavy strategic bomber Rockwell B-1B, General Dynamics proposed a much cheaper FB-111H project. But its capabilities turned out to be incomparably lower than those expected from the machine of a fundamentally new development, and they refused it.

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Re: Early projects of Su-24 Fencer
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2017, 08:13:51 am »
Su-24MM had two small additional inlets on top for feeding AL-31Fs.
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